Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5CCE5DFC1 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 00:27:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 28676 invoked by uid 500); 24 Aug 2012 00:27:23 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-marketing-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 28577 invoked by uid 500); 24 Aug 2012 00:27:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-marketing-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-marketing@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-marketing@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: moderator for ooo-marketing@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 25172 invoked by uid 99); 24 Aug 2012 00:25:14 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of maho.nakata@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.47 as permitted sender) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:message-id:to:subject:from:in-reply-to:references :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mpLDUZ7OMbIfae9moSzlx4i3Biq6DNMxADYqgAVpz2A=; b=SjiGtTropJ//vbUdlx93hL5CvcVJzDpl+7REXqEBBM/znQtkX/J0A40Yv0iWVG9gyC Bu8p/hJSRxufTuNe7XBgJ96ZpI4JH2Q8ADZGYFiPKNoDOV+u02aDox4TwyXWY2cO3c5f LM71GP+dXqOnEFFSGkSHC0fWIIZyeqSwZIXO2fUeM3Gr0MFIh+LSEAUHMiXE9IVXCMou pYaW7dW6YQbrKGzKyqJHsupmSBtHQZrQH/EYpKwiozmh6azqvwV+g6gGzY+ZT+9l7CoI WSM7xYaAE02pN0+Gin9PYLrRgxozB/VHUzwbPLm7mUJl059UxaUwo6PszRAGxA5u0TOj tqNQ== Sender: Maho NAKATA Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 09:24:46 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20120824.092446.1242803082907046304.maho@apache.org> To: ooo-marketing@incubator.apache.org, robweir@apache.org Subject: Re: Download count = 9 099 712 From: Maho NAKATA In-Reply-To: <20120824.092049.1469520807003958844.maho@apache.org> References: <20120824.092049.1469520807003958844.maho@apache.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.3 on Emacs 24.1 / Mule 6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hi, https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ > This maintenance release builds upon the success of Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0, which has been downloaded > over 12 million times by users in 228 countries thanks Nakata Maho From: Maho NAKATA Subject: Re: Download count = 9 099 712 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 09:20:49 +0900 (JST) > Hi Rob, > > Did you announce 10M downloads of AOO 3.4.0?? > > Thanks > Nakata Maho > > From: Rob Weir > Subject: Re: Download count = 9 099 712 > Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 19:24:44 -0400 > >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Wolf Halton wrote: >>> On Jul 24, 2012 8:46 AM, "Rob Weir" wrote: >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 6:21 AM, Wolf Halton >>> wrote: >>>> > On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> So we're getting close now to the 10M mark. It looks like we'll be >>>> >> there in time for the AOO 3.4.1 release announcement. >>>> >> >>>> >> -Rob >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > Are we going to continue the count into 3.4.x...n? or restart at 3.4.1 >>> and >>>> > again at 3.4.2 and again at 3.4.3 etc. >>>> > Restart the count at 3.5? >>>> > >>>> >>>> I'll count the data at a fine-grained level. Since AOO 3.4.1 has >>>> different file names than AOO 3.4.0, it is trivial to distinguish >>>> them. But I can also distinguish AOO 3.4.1 downloads that come from >>>> AOO 3.4.0 upgrades versus someone downloading AOO 3.4.1 as their first >>>> install. >>>> >>>> So for reporting it depends on whether we want to report downloads >>>> counts or users counts. If we wanted to estimate the number of AOO >>>> users, it would be something like: >>>> >>>> User count = AOO 3.4.0 downloads + AOO 3.4.1 downloads - (AOO >>>> 3.4.0->AOO 3.4.1 upgrades) >>>> >>>> Reporting download counts is fine as well, but it that number is >>>> sensitive to the upgrade frequency. So imagine you really have 1 >>>> million actual users, but you come out with a new release every month. >>>> Then over a 6 month period you will show a download count of around 6 >>>> million, but still have only 1 million users. So getting impressive, >>>> but meaningless, download numbers is simple. But a high download >>>> count, caused by upgrade churning, is not really relevant. >>>> >>>> So maybe we want to report two figures: cumulative downloads for >>>> 3.4.x, as well as estimated user counts. >>>> >>>> -Rob >>>> >>>> >>>> > -Wolf >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > This Apt Has Super Cow Powers - http://sourcefreedom.com >>>> > Open-Source Software in Libraries - http://FOSS4Lib.org >>>> > Advancing Libraries Together - http://LYRASIS.org >>>> > Apache Open Office Developer wolfhalton@apache.org >>> >>> The larger the array of data points, the more potentially interesting the >>> visual chart. >>> >> >> Yes. O'Reilly has a new book on D3 graphics. I just got a copy. A >> lot of potential there: >> >> https://github.com/mbostock/d3/wiki/Gallery >> >> Of course, getting graphics like that into AOO itself would be better >> than putting it on our website. >> >> -Rob >> >>> Wolf >>