Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 81F7FDDE0 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 00:27:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 28040 invoked by uid 500); 24 Aug 2012 00:27:04 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-marketing-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 27984 invoked by uid 500); 24 Aug 2012 00:27:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-marketing-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-marketing@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-marketing@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: moderator for ooo-marketing@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 17396 invoked by uid 99); 24 Aug 2012 00:21:19 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of maho.nakata@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.47 as permitted sender) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:message-id:to:subject:from:in-reply-to:references :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Wt8ZjQxudD3YtGoBIPu8eXwTwkErbfaatyzk57Pitl8=; b=MBbpsipvW/Na+lN2x0Y6nJlnaTLqykqn5nxtlypepiGuM9VMkFPf+NIFrJE8/J2+Yj H+jmckXLGPe40F4y4QUisuFHvARCuME+0c+hBMBuDK5B2R2jVuWFAobncuiU9DwR9gpa T2i4MrFPAS6Q6c+6bQQNbvBotGYMro9KHik6gspX9BqOYDuRwk/5JZ/KhGHNMeVRXNsR B2k69E7AiA1AfAZFltoGm0AaWTqt8WdBwZOPX3HXMt+RXAxinAIp84L4kno86sbHqBHs xBCfBuxOwX6a+DqQhGZk3YMF4Rtav3Xs+f9l3xBtaNBqsl3ppzUm0kyCoUV4AB93ejQa Y3oQ== Sender: Maho NAKATA Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 09:20:49 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20120824.092049.1469520807003958844.maho@apache.org> To: ooo-marketing@incubator.apache.org, robweir@apache.org Subject: Re: Download count = 9 099 712 From: Maho NAKATA In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 6.3 on Emacs 24.1 / Mule 6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Rob, Did you announce 10M downloads of AOO 3.4.0?? Thanks Nakata Maho From: Rob Weir Subject: Re: Download count = 9 099 712 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 19:24:44 -0400 > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Wolf Halton wrote: >> On Jul 24, 2012 8:46 AM, "Rob Weir" wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 6:21 AM, Wolf Halton >> wrote: >>> > On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> > >>> >> So we're getting close now to the 10M mark. It looks like we'll be >>> >> there in time for the AOO 3.4.1 release announcement. >>> >> >>> >> -Rob >>> >> >>> > >>> > Are we going to continue the count into 3.4.x...n? or restart at 3.4.1 >> and >>> > again at 3.4.2 and again at 3.4.3 etc. >>> > Restart the count at 3.5? >>> > >>> >>> I'll count the data at a fine-grained level. Since AOO 3.4.1 has >>> different file names than AOO 3.4.0, it is trivial to distinguish >>> them. But I can also distinguish AOO 3.4.1 downloads that come from >>> AOO 3.4.0 upgrades versus someone downloading AOO 3.4.1 as their first >>> install. >>> >>> So for reporting it depends on whether we want to report downloads >>> counts or users counts. If we wanted to estimate the number of AOO >>> users, it would be something like: >>> >>> User count = AOO 3.4.0 downloads + AOO 3.4.1 downloads - (AOO >>> 3.4.0->AOO 3.4.1 upgrades) >>> >>> Reporting download counts is fine as well, but it that number is >>> sensitive to the upgrade frequency. So imagine you really have 1 >>> million actual users, but you come out with a new release every month. >>> Then over a 6 month period you will show a download count of around 6 >>> million, but still have only 1 million users. So getting impressive, >>> but meaningless, download numbers is simple. But a high download >>> count, caused by upgrade churning, is not really relevant. >>> >>> So maybe we want to report two figures: cumulative downloads for >>> 3.4.x, as well as estimated user counts. >>> >>> -Rob >>> >>> >>> > -Wolf >>> > >>> > -- >>> > This Apt Has Super Cow Powers - http://sourcefreedom.com >>> > Open-Source Software in Libraries - http://FOSS4Lib.org >>> > Advancing Libraries Together - http://LYRASIS.org >>> > Apache Open Office Developer wolfhalton@apache.org >> >> The larger the array of data points, the more potentially interesting the >> visual chart. >> > > Yes. O'Reilly has a new book on D3 graphics. I just got a copy. A > lot of potential there: > > https://github.com/mbostock/d3/wiki/Gallery > > Of course, getting graphics like that into AOO itself would be better > than putting it on our website. > > -Rob > >> Wolf >