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From Gianvittorio <>
Subject Re: RE: Re: OpenOffice promotion tips
Date Wed, 29 Feb 2012 21:48:14 GMT
I don't see any reason either that it would not be possible. The fact is that it doesn't happen.
How can we make this happen?
I think that the distributors / retailers would have a problem with distributing AOO because
they do won't make any money out of this ...

On Wed 29/02/12 20:20 , "Dennis E. Hamilton" sent:
> I see no reason that Apache OpenOffice could not simply be installed with
> various OEM distributions of operating systems, and in the case of the
> Windows platform, pre-installed in the way that many other applications
> tend to be bundled.  This could be an install-on-click for those who want
> it, or even fully installed already as part of the OEM setup so it is there
> as part of the first-run Windows setup.  I think install on click is nicer,
> especially since there is less space taken unless the user opts for it.
> Branding might be appealing to the OEM but the downside is that the OEM is
> unlikely to provide support, just as they don't for other OEM-bundled
> third-party goodies.  Users may be startled that there is only peer support
> for such an install and it would be important to be careful in terms of
> first impression and in support needs, access to tutorials, etc.  My sense
> is that the more intermediary-customizations there are in the way, the more
> awkward the support situation becomes and it will reflect back on AOO.
> Another case, especially for Windows, might be for an SE (Starter/Special
> Edition) that is recommended for OEMs and that provides for easy end-user
> customization, addition of extensions, etc., but doesn't blow out the OEM
> initial-configuration disk footprint and is highly friendly.  There might
> even be something to learn from ooo4kids (or vice versa).  These might be
> limited to one localization each (or a small set for multi-lingual
> countries/language groups) and other ways of shrinking the distro but with
> the usual access to upgrades, full editions, etc.  That is also valuable, I
> think, in that OEMs might not upgrade their pre-installs very regularly and
> the supply chain will have old versions regardless.  It is valuable for an
> user to be able to quickly and easily obtain the latest and it works better
> if the branding is consistent.  (I suppose something simple like the
> equivalent of an OEM-configurable startup image or theme set, in a fixed
> location, even in the same folder as the unmodified SE install might work,
> and upgrades could find and use that too.  Enterprises might like that idea
> too.)
> If the OEM has a limited hardware configuration that appeals in particular
> markets, the SE should be minimal in a similar way.  (I have not checked to
> see what is bundled in the Zorin OS 5.2 lite for old and low-spec
> computers, but an SE would be appropriate for that case and any Windows
> that OEMs can still ship on low-spec computers too.  -- This is an
> opportunity for both Linux and Windows shipped by OEMs and OS providers for
> desktops/laptops.)
> Of course, it would help if AOO were more modular to allow for an SE and
> other adaptations, but that is not something that will happen soon.
> - Dennis
> PS: That is not how Symphony is produced, although it may be what happens
> on the road to AOO 4.0.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gianvittorio [gianv
>] Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 05:51
> To:; Rob WeirSubject: Re: Re: OpenOffice promotion
> [ ... ]
> I think that IBM is leading the way. They take Open Office, tweak it
> and make Symphony out of it. Could we not work with Acer to make Acer
> Office and HP to make HP Office, etc? The branding advantage would
> probably obscure the $5 price tag for the Starter Edition...  
> Just my $0.02, 
> Gian
> On Wed 29/02/12 13:43 , Rob Weir robweir@ap
> sent:[ ... ]
> However, if a vendor bundles full copies of MS Office, then they are
> passing the cost on to the user. So a vendor that includes AOO can
> offer a lower price compared to their competitors.
> So I think the "sweet spot" would be lower-end ("value") Windows PC
> and laptop vendors selling to price-conscious consumers.
> -Rob
> [ ... ]

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