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From Terry <>
Subject Collaboration with other projects
Date Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:36:39 GMT
A new thread again because I wanted to start from this point.

----- Original Message -----
> From: Rob Weir <>
> To:
> Cc: 
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 February 2012 3:53 AM
> Subject: Re: Where is the OpenOffice logo used?
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Vadim Korsakov <> 
> wrote:
>>  Hello!
>>  I am thinking also about general promotion of open office.
>>  I also think it would be a great idea to encourage companies who make
>>  proprietary software to include OpenOffice in their distributions. But I do
>>  not think that companies who make proprietary OS will include OOo in their
>>  distributions. In most cases they have their own office software that they
>>  need to promote.
> A few ways to think of this:
> 1) It is entirely reasonable for us to make Apache OpenOffice into a
> package that can be submitted to Linux distros and then made available
> to users in their package catalog.  In some cases we might also be
> installed by default.  But at the very least we can be listed in their
> catalog so users can easily install OpenOffice.

Generally speaking, the Linux distros have decided to 'support' LibreOffice.  Judging partly
from comments in the forum of my distro but also from various articles and blogs, it seems
that is unlikely to change.  One sector which could be singled out is the enterprise market. 
That is where marketing meets development because some developer(s) would need to focus on
enterprise needs.  I have in mind distros such as RedHat, CentOS and Scientific Linux. 
Oracle, I gather, is another.  I am hopeful that those distros are motivated more by pragmatism
than philosophy.

It occurs to me that the Mozilla foundation may be interested in collaboration because of
its booting to the web project, aka Booting to Gecko aka B2G:

> 2) With Windows 8, they will have an "App Store" where users can
> browse and download software.  They will likely have technical and
> packaging requirements for this, but it is probably worth our effort
> to make sure that OpenOffice is very easy for Windows users to
> download and install.

I can't imagine any disagreement with that since Windows is the most widely used platform.

> I'm not very worried about companies that have both operating systems
> and applications discriminating against OpenOffice.   There is strong
> regulatory pressure against companies using control over their OS to
> discriminate against competitors in the applications market.

Regulatory pressure has not stopped Microsoft abusing its position as owner of the most widely
used operating system to put much better software manufacturers out of business.  I had the
misfortune last year to use the 2007 version of its office software for several months and
I believe it is the worst software *of any kind* I have ever used.

>>  We can also negotiate with different companies who produces all kinds of
>>  software except OS to include in their distributions open office as a bonus
>>  to a customer. In my opinion it can improve the popularity of a product.
>>  E.g. somebody buys an antivirus and gets a bonus office packet with the 
>> same DVD.
> The bundling aspect is interesting as well.  But I'd focus more on
> hardware vendors.  Today many PC's come with some version of Office
> pre-installed.  Why not bundle Apache OpenOffice instead?  It allows
> the hardware vendor to lower their costs to consumers, making them
> more competitive.

Why exclude organisations which produce an operating system?  A company which has produced
software disks for many years is

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