Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B0C82745C for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 22:33:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 24912 invoked by uid 500); 11 Dec 2011 22:33:46 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-marketing-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 24884 invoked by uid 500); 11 Dec 2011 22:33:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-marketing-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-marketing@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-marketing@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 24876 invoked by uid 99); 11 Dec 2011 22:33:46 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 22:33:46 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail-vw0-f47.google.com) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username robweir, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 22:33:46 +0000 Received: by vbbfc21 with SMTP id fc21so3443896vbb.6 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:33:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.65.129 with SMTP id x1mr9497051vds.11.1323642824954; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:33:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.152.16 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:33:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1323640848.28012.YahooMailNeo@web161705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <201112031650.43812.g.a.lauder@gmail.com> <1322924694.4241.19.camel@sybil-gnome> <4EE3EBA8.5010402@openoffice.org> <201112120150.51873.g.a.lauder@gmail.com> <1323640848.28012.YahooMailNeo@web161705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:33:44 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Aoo logo draft From: Rob Weir To: ooo-marketing@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Terry wrote= : > Question below quoted text. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Rob Weir >> To: ooo-marketing@incubator.apache.org >> Cc: >> Sent: Monday, 12 December 2011 12:43 AM >> Subject: Re: Aoo logo draft >> >> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Graham Lauder >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> =C2=A0LibreOffice is a good example, they chose the name originally as = a >>> temporary standin in the hope that the TDF would be given the OOo brand= , but they >>> =C2=A0created the new brand and marketed it anyway. =C2=A0Now they woul= dn't want >>> the OOo brand even if it was offered. =C2=A0True, they were dragged kic= king and >>> screaming to it when they eventually accepted such a gift was not going= to happen and >>> =C2=A0thus their new brand was forced to become permanent, but it has w= orked for >>> =C2=A0them. >>> >> >> That shows that rebranding is possible, with effort.=C2=A0 But I think t= hey >> would have even more traffic, more downloads and more users if they >> had the OpenOffice name. >> >> Think of it this way, we get more hits today than LO, even though we >> have not had a release in nearly a year. >> > > Hits where? > For example, search queries in Google: http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=3DOpenOffice%2CLibreOffice&date=3D= 1%2F2011%2012m&cmpt=3Dq Check Alexa as well, for traffic estimates http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/openoffice.org# Traffic rank (global) for past 3 months =3D 2,575 http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/libreoffice.org# Traffic rank (global) for past 3 months =3D 11,174 We can debate what exactly that means, but clearly the more queries and more traffic (lower rank) is a sign of a stronger brand. -Rob >