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From "Marcus (OOo)" <>
Subject Re: Can the Site be a Haven for All?
Date Thu, 03 Nov 2011 11:22:54 GMT
Am 11/03/2011 11:28 AM, schrieb Terry:
> I like the idea but it would be a radical change in direction.  Does anyone know the
current status of ?  That seems to be a possible site for collaboration
at least as far as user documentation is concerned.
> The site has been in existence for a long time.  It links to

The most radical change was done by Oracle with giving the project to 
ASF. For another release we have to do many changes first incl. IP 
clearance. I see this change the biggest ever for the project. ;-)


> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Dennis E. Hamilton<>
>> To:
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Thursday, 3 November 2011 12:53 PM
>> Subject: Can the Site be a Haven for All?
>> Marcus raises an issue that has been lurking in the back of my head since
>> migration efforts began to bear fruit.
>> It has been common to express our intention that the http:// *
>> site be an umbrella or common ground (better perhaps: "bridge") for
>> the sibling efforts that share a common heritage in the original StarOffice and
>> software.
>> I don't think there has been attention on the reality of making the site
>> hospitable in that respect.  I don't know that it can be a meaningful
>> umbrella, especially when the branding is as one-sided as it is and will
>> continue to be, financial contributions are solicited, etc.  Since siblings also
>> seek brand recognition for their own offerings, http:// * is
>> perhaps not multi-faceted enough, especially since there is not and will not be
>> anything like shared control.
>> Still, the Forums,
>> <>, proclaim their ecumenical
>> intentions, indirectly, in their banner.  And maybe it is an ecumenical
>> reciprocity that is to be hoped for.  Somehow, there needs to be polite
>> recognition of each other and cooperation with regard to seeing that our flocks
>> are at home wherever they choose to seek sustenance and support.  It would be
>> wonderful were that apparent in our marketing voice and in how the existence of
>> siblings is expressed and their users encouraged.
>> It seems that the likely case is that there will be friendly cross-connection
>> (sort of the old link-exchange idea) and folks will tend to be asking and
>> answering questions about one release or the other in various places.  There are
>> also some non-affiliated sites that provide substantial support to our various
>> users, including support for some spread of interoperability considerations
>> among the siblings and also with products from Redmond, Cupertino, Mountain
>> View, Beijing and beyond.  (E.g., I recently saw some fascinating statistics for
>> <>.  The atmosphere of some forums/lists more
>> inhospitable to user-issues regarding interop with non-ODF applications than
>> others.  And these different support centers do exhibit a certain
>> competitiveness with respect to each other from time to time.)
>> - Dennis
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Marcus (OOo) []
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 17:20
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Product Branding
>> [ ... ]
>> I repeat my suggestion on this list:
>> Let's build a roof on "" for all Office suites
>> that
>> are based on Then the trademark is used often enough to
>> keep the rights reserved.
>> - and -
>> Every peer should be happy as they can use this portal to give some
>> information, to be a part of the Office family and to link back to their
>> real project and product home.
>> Marcus
>> [ ... ]

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