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From Terry <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Product Branding
Date Fri, 04 Nov 2011 22:31:41 GMT
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> From: Rob Weir <>
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> Sent: Friday, 4 November 2011 11:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Product Branding
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 1:53 AM, Terry <> 
> wrote:
>>  I agree.  That leaves us with the name (including version number) and 
> logos.
>>  For the incubator version (do I have that right or should it be podling 
> version?), logos can stay as they are, I think, unless it is necessary to add 
> ASF logos (which I think someone said is unnecessary).
>>  'OpenOffice' is in conflict with a brand using that term.  It seems 
> to me that the choice is between 'Apache Office', 'Apache Open 
> Office', 'Apache Office Suite' and perhaps others.
> Terry, what do you see that uses "OpenOffice?  I see a Dutch company
> using "Open Office" (with a space).
> We should also keep in mind that a trademark is for a specific
> jurisdiction as well as for a specific use.  So you can have a US
> trademark for "Foo" as a soft drink and it may be fine to also have a
> "Foo" as a brand of floor cleaner.  If there is little likelihood of
> confusion for the consumer, this is typically OK.

Yes, 'openoffice' seems to be used only as a website name.  I have 
no idea whether that presents a problem or not but the existence of that
 website was evidently the reason for the software being called 
'' and has led to some disquiet among members of the 
ooo-dev list and possibly members of this list (I forget where all the 
emails were).

> In any case, I'd recommend that we pick our top 2 or 3 preferred names
> and then get a legal and branding opinion on them.  Unless there is
> something already called exactly "Apache OpenOffice" then I don't
> think we should eliminate it.  We can still say it is our preference
> and send it on for further review.  But it might make sense, when we
> vote, to vote on our top 2 or 3 preferences, in case the most popular
> choice is unavailable.

I agree.  We don't have time, I think, to look at all the logos.  They seem to be scattered
about the domain.  The product name is the main thing to be settled.  My
top 3, in order of preference, are 'Apache Open Office', 'Apache OpenOffice' and 'Apache Office'. 
I recall mention being made here that 'open office' is searched on Google much more than 'openoffice'.


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