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From Dave Fisher <>
Subject Re: [Proposal] Change in Apache Branding...
Date Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:00:42 GMT
Hi Terry,

Sorry, you are having difficulty with ooo-marketing.

On Oct 27, 2011, at 7:19 PM, Terry wrote:

> This is what I attempted twice to post to the marketing list.  Someone on that list provided
a longish list of OOo urls.
> The domains are a jungle.

Most of these extra domains are ones that had been used by people selling OpenOffice. The
AOOo project needs to decide which, if any, need to have registration transferred to the ASF.

> Tested links today.
>  all links here could be placed in a special place on the
home page in a section called (for example) 'how you can contribute'.  One of the links is

This will likely go away.

>  "Firefox can't find the server at"
>  "Firefox can't find the server at"
> "Firefox can't find the server at"
> I shan't test any more pages.

Back in August I tested all of them. Since most of these domains were taken from individuals
who were abusing, it looks like nothing was ever done other than shut them

A few have actual websites, but only one is truly unique -

We've had bigger issues, but eventually we will do something to properly redirect these domains
whether they are kept or not. This will come after the website is migrated
to the ASF.

> With regard to languages other than English, links to these pages could be placed on
the home page and on the download page.

The new is coming together on Apache Infrastructure. More details next week.


>> ________________________________
>> From: floris v <>
>> To:
>> Sent: Friday, 28 October 2011 9:38 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Proposal] Change in Apache Branding...
>> Op 27-10-2011 23:52, Terry schreef:
>>> I do not understand the point Michael made in that email.  Is he suggesting that
no version number be used? 
>>> Terry
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: David H. Lipman<DLipman@Verizon.Net>
>>>> To:
>>>> Sent: Friday, 28 October 2011 1:44 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Proposal] Change in Apache Branding...
>>>> From: "Michael Acevedo"<>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I have been reading the OOo forum and first let me congratulate the Apache
OOo team in
>>>>> completing the transition of the source code earlier this month. As for
my proposal, it
>>>>> stems from one statement made in the Forums indicating
>>>>> "Fundamentally,
>>>>> as a project "" is done." If the following is true I think
it creates a
>>>>> great opportunity to refresh the brand. My proposal has
the following
>>>>> provision: -
>>>>> Drop the "3" or "3.4" suffix from the name and either
leave the office
>>>>> suite name as "Apache" or "Apache 4 * The
rationale for
>>>>> this
>>>>> provision is the fact that the OOo code will undergo (or has
>>>>> undergone substantial rewriting) to allow the source code to be compliant
with the
>>>>> Apache
>>>>> 2.0. licence scheme. * Furthermore, IBM's decision to donate Lotus Symphony
to Apache
>>>>> will
>>>>> most likely result in a "code merger" with the Apache OpenOffice project
which will
>>>>> result
>>>>> in a very altered (compared to today's) source code. Well
that's the
>>>>> basic
>>>>> idea behind proposal and I think the brand refresh will be beneficial
for the Apache OOo
>>>>> project.
>>>>> Again, thank you for your time and keep up the good work!
>>>> I agree with all aspects of what Michael suggests and has stated.
>>>> -- 
>>>> Dave
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>> With lots of rewriting and going back to old software like myspell any 
>> version number seems to me a very dubious affair. You might just as well 
>> restart with Apache OOo 1.0. A higher version number suggests, after 
>> all, that the developers built on an older version and added stuff and 
>> removed bugs. Here the story is very different. It's probably my biggest 
>> objection to this rebranding: there are quite a few annoying bugs and 
>> shortcomings that have plagued users for years, and instead of tackling 
>> those, the developers are discarding stuff that works in favour of old 
>> software that may not work quite as well. Really.
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