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From Terry <>
Subject Re: Process for deciding on branding strategy for our first release
Date Tue, 01 Nov 2011 00:01:11 GMT
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> From: Alexandro Colorado <>
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> Sent: Tuesday, 1 November 2011 6:32 AM
> Subject: Re: Process for deciding on branding strategy for our first release
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Rob Weir <> wrote:
>>  Looking at the dev work that remains, I think we need to move forward
>>  on this with deliberate speed.  This impacts both the branding on our
>>  3.4 release, as well as the branding on our web sites, both of which
>>  are making strong progress.
>>  I think there are two main elements we need to decide on:
>>  1) Product name:  Apache OpenOffice, Apache or something
>>  else
>>  2) Logo, for use on website, product splash screen etc.
>>  I propose that we discuss these topics on the ooo-marketing for two
>>  weeks, until November 14th.  If there is consensus on these questions
>>  then we will go forward to implement that consensus.  But if there is
>>  no consensus by the 14th, then we will have a 72-hour vote of PPMC
>>  members to decide among the alternatives.
>>  Of course, it is better to reach consensus on such questions, but a
>>  product name is not optional, so we need to resolve these questions
>>  one way or another.
>>  Any objections to this general approach and time frame?
>>  -Rob

I agree with the general approach and time frame.  I think the questions can be resolved

> My largest issue is basically the way is being handled this voting, usually
> it seems that is not as easily traceable as a poll. Mailing list can easily
> bury vote by just having chatty people or flamewars.
> I rather see the forum as a more dynamic way to reach consensus like they
> do with a voting poll separate from the overall discussion why is a good
> idea or not. Also I would miss the ability to change the voting in case the
> voter realize that he has a change of heart. I do like the timeline.
> So I would propose a decision making framework to account vote, change
> votes, and easily browse/review overall group decisions.
> -- 
> *Alexandro Colorado*
> ** Español
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By 'forum' do you mean the community forum or this mailing list?  A [VOTE] thread
on either issue (name or logos) may prove to be necessary but, surely, that does
not need to be decided at the outset.

As far as the substance is concerned,

1.  Name:
The word 'Apache' has to be used.  'OpenOffice' has history and familiarity.  The
suffix '.org' is no longer needed.  It was an oddity to name software with the address
of a website.

2.  Logos:
The Apache logo must be used.  To make sure that people recognise the heritage of the
software, at least one OpenOffice logo should be used.  This is a link to a page containing

Regards, Terry

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