Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 80984D9CE for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 20:35:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 46277 invoked by uid 500); 2 Nov 2012 20:35:11 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 46186 invoked by uid 500); 2 Nov 2012 20:35:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 46178 invoked by uid 99); 2 Nov 2012 20:35:11 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 20:35:10 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of acolorado@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.47 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.160.47] (HELO mail-pb0-f47.google.com) (209.85.160.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 20:35:05 +0000 Received: by mail-pb0-f47.google.com with SMTP id ro12so2468463pbb.6 for ; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:34:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Npvxr4p42ZyM0ApbxGgpTgPIMRS1nNilv8T7lPL/4o8=; b=qlr4tUuGPTZ/SPiq1bI1jm3qotBNOIxtwjiDO6mvCd2ItBA0YogwYN74l5ThYsFOEX 5X0a4/2FRxBGoleNnErwx0QytlqeQD2UgrEJMhAG/NxaW8b15S8X+b7K9/20bmkiqlot wYT39RnnWY+c8LCqNKQ7S0U+pfWcNZv4Lh0H6HkR+M7gkKcTBTww9c0ay6r+/HtS0KLD HDVd599X61uBCCldSxYoMAvoG0+SaOqt8Gm3zu0+Ce8ssG0iOPtXXFTpsFXNJH4l90e+ rq2ThaD7Fd+FlPA7m57cBL77qYYjIeqjSNyeJF9xAxwVd4hnXuzy7Emw8FF37j18/6pj lsEw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.219.106 with SMTP id pn10mr9627471pbc.41.1351888485374; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Sender: acolorado@gmail.com Received: by 10.66.47.99 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 13:34:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5093870D.3010605@apache.org> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 14:34:45 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4hfASl22JNKYM-VI84KSdT2esJI Message-ID: Subject: Re: AOO.Next IBM Priorities From: Alexandro Colorado To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 11/2/12, Ian Lynch wrote: > On 2 November 2012 08:40, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > >> On 01/11/2012 robert_weir wrote: >> >>> We (IBM) have consulted with customers, internal users, other IBM >>> product >>> teams, on what our (IBM's) development priorities should be for the next >>> AOO release. Obviously, we're not the only ones with priorities or >>> interests or opinions. We don't make AOO decisions by ourselves. But >>> we >>> want to be transparent about what our own priorities are >>> >> >> Thank you for sharing. They are all good and needed contributions and >> they >> cover many of the main results from the Google Moderator user survey. >> >> There are still missing things that I've seen requested and that I would >> personally like to see in the product (a non-exhaustive list would >> include: >> better OOXML support, full or enhanced ODF 1.2 support, > > > I think the best filters possible are the highest priority. It is difficult > to use AOO with government documents because mostly they have complex table > structures for gathering data in docx format. This more than anything will > prevent take up. This problem is more on the design and paper paradigm. Having a digitalization of a paper-form forms, we use tables to design as opposed as to hold tabular data. A document design should be done with a DTP program something that Writer is not the optimal software for it. Frame-based software is the ideal for design documents. One simple example is the lack of 'rotate' an image in Writer, while Draw has it. Here we have two scenarios: 1) Import such features into writer. 2) Improve the integration of draw and writer. Draw layers could easily be taken as a "template" for writer to fill in around Draw designs. > > better defaults, better integration with the Extensions and Templates sites >> or in general better visibility for the additional resources, a refreshed >> visual identity not only in the interface...), and indeed it will be good >> to start collecting priorities on the wiki and assess feasibility of the >> underlying development. >> >> And then of course there's the community side: we are now able to engage >> localization volunteers but there is still work to do to be able to >> engage >> unaffiliated developers, so we might take that into consideration when >> discussing the new features. >> >> releasing is PMC decision, not an IBM one. But we think that this work >>> could be completed and tested for a release in the March/April 2013 >>> time-frame. And the scope of the release might be significant enough to >>> warrant a "4.0" designation. >>> >> >> Seems like this would be a good plan. Let's make it real! >> > > On that timescale we really need to get going if we are to have a > competition for branding for 4.0. > > >> >> Regards, >> Andrea. >> > > -- > Ian > > Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) > > www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 > > The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, > Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and > Wales. > -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org