Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B8FF2D4FF for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32255 invoked by uid 500); 1 Nov 2012 16:12:24 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 31828 invoked by uid 500); 1 Nov 2012 16:12:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 31807 invoked by uid 99); 1 Nov 2012 16:12:22 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 16:12:22 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of acolorado@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.47 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.220.47] (HELO mail-pa0-f47.google.com) (209.85.220.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 16:12:16 +0000 Received: by mail-pa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id fa11so1675443pad.6 for ; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 09:11:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=w8osOtcS+W9sgbgXYbw9cqgOc0doIbPQuFjN+9cTF2A=; b=g9euffUTtGCvL20vWDhQxQOs8MF2lsvof+CYazqDq5bq9NX1Sg5Tk44Ujy7sXyMwOf +RtMHTSl9Kj2/BRj2a3lq7ykAo9HuCB7PCDZdRqeaUNS4SwQezC6dOeaOUGFw4azjeS7 Paebl51/4nEm1Og7DAvnbmGJb7b/6ScDU39rPyrgnczzoziGZEnWgCAOdEPpyZW1Cj4v SdVoOK4GCUEQjHVppxJy0wCwpgvDxy3OX6qoiMBPgCuDSzbj2na4QcOcmHwm8IyCTwdE B+5B1+11iE3vaiUCNdesBfYDIj/V3Ki2G8WLnzEqlXzTOH2WAVXjPOq+1QDmIBCukxMt dQOA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.235.71 with SMTP id uk7mr124409098pbc.10.1351786315668; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 09:11:55 -0700 (PDT) Sender: acolorado@gmail.com Received: by 10.66.47.99 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 09:11:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 10:11:55 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: DWnlqzOaPLXsz_T1xefJawKVoX0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Have you been contacted via private email and discouraged from participating on the OpenOffice project? From: Alexandro Colorado To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org This should be a wake up call for the weak marketing effort it has been going. Lack of connection with major information providers and overal lack of PR. I hope this could change as we move forward. It also puts new light on the discussion on marketing efforts/support, funding and such. On 11/1/12, jan iversen wrote: > +1, what can I say apart from I am still here, and I mean to stay with AOO > for a long time. > > Jan. > > On 1 November 2012 15:18, Rob Weir wrote: > >> I'm hearing that some project volunteers, especially new ones, are >> being contacted by certain external parties, who then try to >> discourage them from contributing to the Apache OpenOffice project. >> I'm hearing that similar notes have been sent out to those who >> submitted listings to our new Consultants Directory, also discouraging >> them from involvement in the project. >> >> This is my personal view on this matter, for what it is worth. >> >> I think we all would agree that such techniques are deplorable and >> bring disrepute to the individuals involved, and to the project that >> sanctions such techniques. If you recall we had a similar wave of >> such unprofessional behavior a few months ago, when certain external >> parties were contacting journalists who mentioned OpenOffice and >> telling them that it was no longer being developed and to link to a >> different product instead. >> >> I any case, if you are receiving such FUD yourself, I'd encourage you >> to simply post it to this mailing list, or to your blog, or some other >> public website. "Daylight is the best antiseptic" as they say. I am >> not a medical doctor, but I do believe that FUD exposed to public >> scrutiny loses its potency. But FUD ignored is FUD that spreads. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> -Rob >> > -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org