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From jan iversen <>
Subject Re: Have you been contacted via private email and discouraged from participating on the OpenOffice project?
Date Thu, 01 Nov 2012 16:38:45 GMT
Please excuse me, I think I know the difference between hooligans and
people who are just blowing hot air.

To be honest, at the moment AOO does NOT have a great deal of momentum, and
have (I think) lost a quite a lot of reputation among developers. That is
something we have to remedy, not by glittering folders, or smart marketing,
but by showing the developers, that we really care about their

If I may say so, some developers might see "the apache way" as a
limitation, which my experience during the last month somewhat confirms, I
think we really need to focus on "the community" instead of telling people
about legal issues, but about getting a product that still can out beat the
big (costly) products out there. Do NOT forget some state institutions in
EU choose OpenOffice against other, but today I would not be so sure !!!

Sorry for the outburst, but I am used to say what I think, and I really
really want AOO to be the opensource project, as it was in the past. Lets
not forget why we are all here.....


On 1 November 2012 17:20, RGB ES <> wrote:

> 2012/11/1 Rob Weir <>
> > I'm hearing that some project volunteers, especially new ones, are
> > being contacted by certain external parties, who then try to
> > discourage them from contributing to the Apache OpenOffice project.
> > I'm hearing that similar notes have been sent out to those who
> > submitted listings to our new Consultants Directory, also discouraging
> > them from involvement in the project.
> >
> > This is my personal view on this matter, for what it is worth.
> >
> > I think we all would agree that such techniques are deplorable and
> > bring disrepute to the individuals involved, and to the project that
> > sanctions such techniques.  If you recall we had a similar wave of
> > such unprofessional behavior a few months ago, when certain external
> > parties were contacting journalists who mentioned OpenOffice and
> > telling them that it was no longer being developed and to link to a
> > different product instead.
> >
> > I any case, if you are receiving such FUD yourself, I'd encourage you
> > to simply post it to this mailing list, or to your blog, or some other
> > public website.  "Daylight is the best antiseptic" as they say.  I am
> > not a medical doctor, but I do believe that FUD exposed to public
> > scrutiny loses its potency.   But FUD ignored is FUD that spreads.
> >
> There is and always will be people who do not understand what an opensource
> project is and behave like hooligans "defending" their soccer team. I hope
> they are just individuals and nothing more, but I fully agree to put each
> case under daylight.
> Regards
> Ricardo
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -Rob
> >

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