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From: "Keith N. McKenna" <keith.mckenna@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [proposal] Outdated articles in Wiki
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:16:02 -0400
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Jan;
{{Documentation/Outdated}} and {{delete}} are two seperate entities. 
Outdated merely says that some inormation is outdated and should be 
revised. {{delete}} is a special case that marks a file for speedy 
deletion by an wiki administrator.

At least with the user documentation we tend to add to the document for 
newer versions of the software rather than get rid of it as there are 
still people using older versions. This can however get carried to 
extremes. My personal opinion is that it is probably  time to start 
seriously considering purging version 2.x stuff, but that is a 
discussion for another thread.

Regards
Keith


jan iversen wrote:
> So if an article is outdated, then it is ready for deletion....or ???
>
> Is it wise to have outdated articles alongside the correct/newer ones,
> thinking of e.g. building instructions it would at least confuse me.
>
> but I have no problem using {{Delete}} thanks for advicing me.
>
> jan.
>
> On 26 October 2012 19:03, Keith N. McKenna <keith.mckenna@comcast.net>wrote:
>
>> Jan;
>>
>> No the outdated symbol is different. {{Delete}} Is a template that puts
>> the article in a special category to be deleted by an admin or by a bot.
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
>> jan iversen wrote:
>>
>>> Do you mean the "outdated" symbol, which should do just fine ??
>>>
>>> Jan.
>>>
>>> On 26 October 2012 17:18, J�rgen Schmidt <jogischmidt@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>   On 10/25/12 9:19 PM, jan iversen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Maybe we could move them to an archive.... ??
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think we can find probably common consensus that we want to delete
>>>> pages to clean up this old stuff.
>>>>
>>>> For example nobody needs today the old building guides. Let us focus on
>>>> the future and here I think less but correct and up-to-date information
>>>> is more.
>>>>
>>>> When I remember correct there exist a template that could be used to
>>>> mark a page for deletion.
>>>>
>>>> Simply put {{Delete}} on top of the page
>>>>
>>>> Or we can create our own delete template with further instructions how
>>>> to proceed.
>>>>
>>>> Administrator can for this from time to time and can delete stuff. Or we
>>>> can try to cleanup such pages via a wiki bot.
>>>>
>>>> Juergen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> jan
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 October 2012 21:12, Alexandro Colorado <jza@oooes.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   Nobody want to delete information and wiki pages only admin can
>>>>>> actually delete pages. Even then there might be some rights about
>>>>>> ownership. Is like sourceforge dont delete inactive projects.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Still good conversation to debate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/25/12, jan iversen <jancasacondor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To my knowledge, articles that are marked outdated with a reference to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>> newer article stays in Wiki.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would it not be a good idea to remove such pages, in order not to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> confuse
>>>>
>>>>> users ??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are however no means, which I can find, to do that ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Reason for my idea/question is that I am looking at localization
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> (l10n),
>>>>
>>>>> and there are a bit of old information.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Alexandro Colorado
>>>>>> PPMC Apache OpenOffice
>>>>>> http://es.openoffice.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>