Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 343C7D804 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:49:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 684 invoked by uid 500); 24 Oct 2012 22:49:52 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 463 invoked by uid 500); 24 Oct 2012 22:49:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 455 invoked by uid 99); 24 Oct 2012 22:49:52 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:49:52 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail-vb0-f47.google.com) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username robweir, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:49:52 +0000 Received: by mail-vb0-f47.google.com with SMTP id ez10so1160622vbb.6 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:49:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.221.0.78 with SMTP id nl14mr10591602vcb.21.1351118990993; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.157.77 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:49:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6EF183DA-9F3F-493C-BF6C-F43D1B98B13E@comcast.net> References: <6EF183DA-9F3F-493C-BF6C-F43D1B98B13E@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:49:50 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Volunteers, Contributors, Committers, PMC members -- is there any way to consolidate these lists? From: Rob Weir To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > Thanks Rob. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 24, 2012, at 11:56 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> We have the following today: >> >> 1) http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/people.html -- This >> lists a variety of people involved in the project, independent of >> status. > > Let's convert this page into an official list of PMC members and Committers. Maintained by the PMC. I volunteer to update this by next week. >> >> 2) I'd like to have a place for new volunteers to put their names, >> preferably on the wiki or some place where a non-committer has easy >> access. > > +1 this can be dynamic and self organizing. >> >> 3) We have a list of Committers here, automatically generated: >> http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#ooo > > This is from the ASF and comes from karma as granted by the PMC chair. > >> >> 4) We don't have anything that indicates which Committers are also PMC members. > > The new people page will show the differences. >> >> 5) We have this "credits" page, which is linked to from our Help/About >> dialog box. But it does not appear to be updated for AOO 3.4.0 or >> 3.4.1: http://www.openoffice.org/welcome/credits.html >> >> 6) Wiki "User" pages >> >> 7) Any others? >> >> As we all know, with multiple lists like this things will get out of >> synch. In fact they already have. >> >> One simplification idea might be: >> >> 1) Convert the people.html page into a wiki page > > I'd like to keep it as a CMS page. >> >> 2) Have that page indicate who is a Committer or PMC member. That can >> be manual for now. >> >> 3) Point our Help/About box to the wiki page, and add sentence at the >> end of the wiki that says, "OpenOffice has a long history and we also >> thank those who contributed to it before our move to Apache" and then >> link to credits.html >> >> >> Any objections to this general idea? > > None other than the committer / PMC page should remain in the CMS. > That works for me. Maybe, in order to reduce duplication/overlap and the sync issues that come from that, the wiki page would only have volunteers who are not also committers? And since we're all "people" maybe rename the people.mdtext and nav link to say "Committers"? -Rob > Regards, > Dave > > >> Any improvements? >> >> And if we did want a place to have a big table of volunteers, where on >> the wiki should we put it (CWiki or MWiki)? >> >> -Rob