Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 58FE9D201 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 08:22:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 69292 invoked by uid 500); 3 Oct 2012 08:22:21 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 69017 invoked by uid 500); 3 Oct 2012 08:22:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 68975 invoked by uid 99); 3 Oct 2012 08:22:18 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 08:22:18 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of ianrlynch@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.47 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.216.47] (HELO mail-qa0-f47.google.com) (209.85.216.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 08:22:11 +0000 Received: by mail-qa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id i29so1678678qaf.6 for ; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 01:21:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=nhEgCOuInRsyjP4z6qIhilbW9XCUydV2qbKVf2uOJOQ=; b=aHtiF2hcL5vN3o+9/KJMnEPD3X+OvTKBA4jR8/V/TIkqYdz9nYfyTduVkwMp4myiyv CkXNULXzXwuStazuk6Z6XZdAAEHNuK2xHTCWtiqt9rER2BnDPZpeRZ6i5q67Na6/toS+ /L7JmKI3Ir7A1zDgkMdWTqjqfyxVd0M1rMgLHnFiHK144rmKnSw1x08shgNaM1XTY8d0 WJj7c36iHkb80f9xY4SGCuTQF/Y9g8qlcLRD07wa2MgwRDbTR+H4yxWsTPKFBfNiENxB 9fyThOwAn1PJn8tdsYrttEr+Fw8XXoVn+d0h8931LuPklm1BOCLHMigLtmMmSQ2fcXW0 k6kA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.137.11 with SMTP id u11mr500483qct.53.1349252510865; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 01:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.35.212 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 01:21:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 09:21:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Seeking OpenOffice consultants -- help us validate our new consultants listings From: Ian Lynch To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00235452ecf49f5b6304cb235456 --00235452ecf49f5b6304cb235456 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 3 October 2012 02:36, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 7:52 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Albino B Neto wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > > >> So I'm wondering... are there other kinds of certification of > > >> interest, beyond user certification? Does anyone currently (or do we > > >> anticipate) something like a "Certified OpenOffice Developer"? If so > > >> we might want to reserve categories for "User Certification" and > > >> "Developer Certification". (Admin certification as well?) > > > > > > Certification can be wide. How can we have certification for users, > > > consultants, developers, I believe this could have shed, or maybe just > > > for users and developers. > > > > > > It will depend on where the project wants to reach, but I think having > > > to Users, Consultants and Developers. > > > > > > Because consultants and User: User who want to teach, increases your > > > resume. Consultants who wish to migrate to companies etc. > > > > > > > > > OK. Let me restate this in another way: > > > > If we have a fixed schema (a fixed taxonomy or list of "areas of > > practice") then this allows us to generate an UI that categories by > > this value. So we could have a table of contents or navigation error > > that takes you to a list of only "Migration" experts or only > > "Certification" experts. For this to work well we need a pre-defined > > list, of maybe 5-12 categories that we can fit everyone into. But if > > every listing has its own unique category, then this is not very > > useful. It doesn't help the consultant or the site visitor. > > > > But I don't want to do anything unnatural either. If the real world > > doesn't fit neatly into 5-12 categories, we could abandon that kind of > > categorization and just have it be a free entry field with no special > > navigation. Or even eliminate it altogether in favor of the > > unstructured "description" field. > > > > If we think we'll have many listings (more than a page) then having a > > categorization would be helpful to the user, I think, to help them > > find what they are looking for more easily. > > > > > > In any case thanks to Ian for the listing data. Can anyone else offer > > a listing? Alexandro, perhaps? > > > > Our taxonomy only expanded to 3 'tags', Developer, Training, Consultant. > Consulting would cover migration services. > Development would cover VARs and ISV. > Training will cover certification, book publishers, freelance trainers etc. > > It was common for companies to have two or three categories. > The one issue that arises here is that the term certification could mean certificated to be an authorised developer, trainer or consultant as well as certificated as a competent user of say Writer. This certainly seems to have caused confusion in the past and across at LibreO. However, unless AOO provides some sort of certification of companies authorised to act under its Logo (which seems counter to ASF policy) I doubt certification of companies will be relevant whereas qualifications for individuals are traditionally delivered by third parties so that is more likely to be the take up. > > > > > > > -Rob > > > > > > > Albino > > > > > > -- > Alexandro Colorado > PPMC Apache OpenOffice > http://es.openoffice.org > -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. --00235452ecf49f5b6304cb235456--