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Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 19:12:13 -0500
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Subject: Re: OpenOffice SVG vector graphics
From: Alexandro Colorado <jza@oooes.org>
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
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On 10/6/12, Alexandro Colorado <jza@oooes.org> wrote:
> On 10/6/12, Ian Lynch <ianrlynch@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 6 October 2012 22:23, Alexandro Colorado <jza@oooes.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/6/12, Dennis E. Hamilton <orcmid@apache.org> wrote:
>>> > I think the OP is asking about printed forms, as on a bumper sticker.
>>>  Since
>>> > they are presumably enlarged, the provision of trademark information
>>> > in
>>> > small but readable type at/around the margin would probably work.
>>>
>>> Well this would be confusing in itself, doesnt it already has a printed
>>> TM?
>>>
>>
>> One thing that immediately springs to mind is that Inkscape is getting
>> used
>> for these drawings in preference to AOO Draw because it supports svg.  If
>> we are serious about a drawing component to AOO and to open standards we
>> must have a strategy to fully support svg. This has been an on-going
>> issue
>> since the start of OOo but it is getting more and more urgent as time
>> goes
>> on. Armin has done some great work, no doubt about it but we really need
>> to
>> take it further. I only wish I had the know how.
>
> Scribus, which is a DTP application in many ways similar and
> compatible with OOo Draw (and followups) also provide a very good
> support for SVG. This could be a great testcase to understand how they
> approach and support SVG's advanced features[1] like animation,
> scripting, and gradients.
>
> One big difference I have felt on Draw versus Inkscape (in practice)
> is the way curve lines work, is opposite to what inkcape and other
> tracing software (fontforge, sodipodi, gimp, etc) had us used to. The
> node's vertices behave on an opposite manner and make the drawing
> techniques vary somewhat. I am not sure why this is and hope a DTP
> expert can define a line between drawing and DTP.
>
> Funny enough the Scribus community reffers to us[2] for creating high
> quality graphics thanks to our sophisticate 3D extensions on objects.
>
> [1]http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=4732 |
> http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=1701
> [2]http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/How_to_Create_a_High-Quality_Chart_Using_OpenOffice.org_and_Scribus

Further chat with the people on the #scribus chatroom on IRC they
point me out about the way they handle SVG, which is through a Plugin.
http://sourceforge.net/p/scribus/trunk/ci/08c3ce529d3e508802200fdb0fe67bc9f00000e0/tree/Scribus/scribus/plugins/import/svg/

By the way, there is also some good documentation on the way they hand
the ODG fileformat (OO draw native fileformat)
http://sourceforge.net/p/scribus/trunk/ci/08c3ce529d3e508802200fdb0fe67bc9f00000e0/tree/Scribus/scribus/plugins/import/oodraw/


>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> >  - Dennis
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: acolorado@gmail.com [mailto:acolorado@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
>>> > Alexandro Colorado
>>> > Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 09:28
>>> > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> > Subject: Re: OpenOffice SVG vector graphics
>>> >
>>> > On 10/6/12, Guy Waterval <waterval.guy@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> Hi Alexandro,
>>> >> Hi all,
>>> >>
>>> >> 2012/10/6 Alexandro Colorado <jza@oooes.org>
>>> >>
>>> >>> I upload the OpenOffice SVG logo on pure SVG, still needs some
>>> >>> cleanup
>>> >>> on the nodes, but this is a 100% SVG logo.
>>> >>> The attachment is on the cWiki:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/ApacheOpenOfficeTM.svg
>>> >>> &
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpageattachments.action?pageId=27834483&sortBy=date&
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Many thanks for your work, it's appreciated.
>>> >> Please, could you tell me how to reuse properly your work or any free
>>> >> logo
>>> >> of this type ?.
>>> >> In a book there is no problem, a notice"Credits" can tell the author
>>> >> and
>>> >> license of the work.
>>> >> But in other cases of use, as a banner on a car or as poster, how to
>>> >> do
>>> >> to
>>> >> give credit of the reused work ? I see only the possibility to add a
>>> line
>>> >> with the corresponding informations.
>>> >
>>> > SVG is an XML program and support Metadata, which is extra information
>>> > on the work.
>>> >
>>> > Inkscape support such metadata including a series of documents.
>>> >
>>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/4/47/Inkscape-0.44SVN-metadata.png
>>> >
>>> >> A+
>>> >> --
>>> >> gw
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Alexandro Colorado
>>> > PPMC Apache OpenOffice
>>> > http://es.openoffice.org
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alexandro Colorado
>>> PPMC Apache OpenOffice
>>> http://es.openoffice.org
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ian
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>
>
> --
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>


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