Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B64AD8B6 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 22:28:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 76938 invoked by uid 500); 26 Oct 2012 22:28:51 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 76877 invoked by uid 500); 26 Oct 2012 22:28:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 76869 invoked by uid 99); 26 Oct 2012 22:28:51 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 22:28:51 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of jancasacondor@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.47 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.219.47] (HELO mail-oa0-f47.google.com) (209.85.219.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 22:28:45 +0000 Received: by mail-oa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id h1so3140625oag.6 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:28:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ZWs3wY4UauSXeRea2cxz0XFor5DGAz1z6FsAsfaoEOU=; b=Bg7Vwen1GHfXwgYQHypGFWmPVTL0bzfxzxL2SEVR95o6rSbzb8NWW6wB98ID7hp9vx WKq9iFIOF5bq6Rxy8kUFvfLJWyvssQU7uyufa/cy2bRW6ixzIZNmVeqX2UyZxH7rNrOq 5X6/4C/IJt9dRzUvVGgPRwn/p2/4nXivJGyWlkTLoBeIlPRUTIHworCulDnzWAWT4nN+ SXMeMAmmKu6//IOH3MlEppRcLSBe41DR0dLjb8XuRUJWJPYxq5OAso+fG8TmeK7O+2v3 eeYzQlpb56TyC45kfAKYdbMnYk0+eX5P02zeBjNuziNEkOqtnBsHm5FYYcgxVcht2q1K ahyA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.7.226 with SMTP id m2mr21379450oea.72.1351290504568; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.91.9 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:28:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <508849B1.3090509@t-online.de> <006a01cdb226$33c74090$9b55c1b0$@acm.org> <508A402F.9020108@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 00:28:24 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] "difficulty" field for Bugzilla From: jan iversen To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f923e14835e2604ccfdd67c X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --e89a8f923e14835e2604ccfdd67c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Did I miss something, I thought we had the status "confirmed" to be used not by the bug reporter but by a developer or likewise, and when "confirmed" is set, that is the time to give the bug an easy/wizard level. The process should be: - someone reports and describes a bug - someone technically qualified confirms the bug, put a comment in on where the bug probably sits and gives it a level. Or is that too much ?? rgds jan On 27 October 2012 00:09, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > > On 10/26/2012 07:26 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 3:47 AM, Andre Fischer > wrote: > >>> On 24.10.2012 22:28, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > >>>> > >>>> @Regina, > >>>> > >>>> Yes, Wizard is a reference to the level of mastery that a solver > must > >>>> possess, and is one of those "which one of these words does not > belong" > >>>> solutions. > >>>> > >>>> There is a well-known *logarithmic* difficulty scale that has been > used > >>>> over 40 years for problem difficulty. It might be worth adapting: > >>>> > >>>> (after unknown), > >>>> > >>>> 00 easy - immediately solvable by someone willing to do it > >>>> 10 simple - takes minutes > >>>> 20 medium, average - quarter hour > >>>> 30 moderate, an evening > >>>> 40 difficult, challenging, non-trivial (term project, GSoC...) > >>>> 50 unsolved, deep, requires a breakthrough, research > >>>> (PhD dissertation) > >>>> 60 intractable (that I just made up - probably not something that > >>>> is technically feasible regardless of skill, Nobel Prize, > >>>> P = NP, etc.) > >>> > >>> > >>> Is this not similar to what Knuth used (uses) in his "Art of Computer > >>> Programming" series? > >>> > >> > >> It reminds me of Knuth as well. > >> > >> In any case, I've added the new field, using the above scale, but > >> changing "unsolved" to "research", since all open bugs are unsolved in > >> some sense. > >> > >> -Rob > > > > Rob, Will you be updating the information/instructions on: > > > > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/HowToFileIssue > > > > with this new field? > > > > I don't think the average bug reporter has any idea whether something > is an easy fix or not. Only a developer would know this. And > developers don't read pages with names like 'How to file a good Issue" > ;-) > > But I will document as part of the new volunteer orientation stuff I'm > writing up. There are a number of pieces that I need to connect > together -- the new volunteers directory, the new orientation modules, > the BZ difficulty field, etc. Hopefully I can get this ready to > launch soon. > > -Rob > > > > >> > >>> -Andre > >>> > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > MzK > > > > "Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never > > dealt with a cat." > > -- Robert Heinlein > --e89a8f923e14835e2604ccfdd67c--