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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:35:42 +0200
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Subject: Re: CMS diff: DA.OpenOffice - En komplet fri kontorpakke
From: jan iversen <jancasacondor@gmail.com>
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just a comment on 2), I dont put anything in the patch as such, CMS does
that ??

There is a field called "header" which I thought was for a message, but it
obviously is not.

So two changes to CMS would be nice:
a) possibility to preview the page (making sure all html marking work as it
should)
b) possibility to add a note to the committer.

The page is ok for now, and in a week or two, I would like to push this
news into a news list.

Thanks for your help.

have a nice day
Jan I.

On 19 October 2012 15:21, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:

> 2012/10/19 jan iversen <jancasacondor@gmail.com>:
> > You are right, even though I have lived a whole life, reusing code and
> > tweaking it to fit my purpose.
> >
> > But honestly the real heroes (and gurus) are who work behind the scenes
> and
> > get things working.
> >
>
> Yes, I agree.
>
> > I just had a CMS session, hope you like that better.
> >
>
> Thanks.  I committed your patch with two changes:
>
> 1) It was missing closing tags for the <h2> headers.  It needs to be:
> <h2>My header text here</h2>
>
> 2) Only put page content in the patch.  If you want to add a note to
> the committers, that should go in the email.  I think there is a place
> for this in the form?  I'm not sure.
>
> Take a look:  http://www.openoffice.org/da/
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
> > Jan.
> >
> > 2012/10/19 Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org>
> >
> >> 2012/10/19 jan iversen <jancasacondor@gmail.com>:
> >> > Got it, my failure (it was obvious a bit too late when I made it)
> >> >
> >> > I will do a new CMS session after lunch.
> >> >
> >> > It seems that mdtext is just an abbreviation of mediaWiki, would lif=
e
> be
> >> > easy if the gurus of all these different forms could get together an=
d
> >> > decide on something common. Maybe for us (in the long term) we could
> >> > simplify thing and e.g. say we use mediaWiki.
> >> >
> >>
> >> This is the nature of programming, yes?  The fame and glory comes form
> >> inventing something new, even if not needed.  No one ever got promoted
> >> for reusing code ;-)
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
> >> > jan.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2012/10/19 Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org>
> >> >
> >> >> 2012/10/19 jan iversen <jancasacondor@gmail.com>:
> >> >> > Hi Rob
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I just followed your youtube video :-) and CMS sent this off, mor=
e
> or
> >> >> less
> >> >> > automatically.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> One thing I didn't mention in the video is we have two main kinds o=
f
> >> >> pages on the website:  HTML and mdtext.
> >> >>
> >> >> HTML is HTML, of course.
> >> >>
> >> >> mdtext =3D=3D Markdown Text, a simplified format that is really eas=
y for
> >> >> simple informational pages with text and headers, lists and
> >> >> hyperlinks.
> >> >>
> >> >> You can read about the syntax here:
> >> >> http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/
> >> >>
> >> >> Or even better, look at a sample page in source:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/site/trunk/content/openoff=
iceorg/native-lang.mdtext
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > I think it is actually a diff to the existing page, and I thought
> your
> >> >> idea
> >> >> > was quite brilliant since it would allow me and others to update
> the
> >> >> > content easily.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> You figured out the web CMS interface, which is a stumbling block f=
or
> >> >> many people.  So this is a great start, I think.
> >> >>
> >> >> > How are the others doing it, do they have commit rights ?
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> If I'm editing a page or two, I use the same web interface.  So wha=
t
> >> >> you did was right, except in the syntax.
> >> >>
> >> >> A specific example.  You added:
> >> >>
> >> >> +Tilg=E6ngelighed og Styring
> >> >> +Apache OpenOffice er tilg=E6ngelig gratis for enhver bruger og for=
m=E5l,
> >> >> og kan downloades fra http://openoffice.org. Productet downloades e=
t
> >> >> ubegr=E6nset antal gange p=E5=A8PC for et ubegr=E6nset antal af bru=
gere -
> HELT
> >> >> GRATIS fri for alle licens afgifter. Projektet har en st=E6rk
> fokusering
> >> >> p=E5 at st=F8tte open standards, fra ODF (der f=F8rst implementered=
e
> ISO/IEC
> >> >> 26300) til fremtidige planer for CMIS, OpenSocial, og OData.
> >> >>
> >> >> But what is really needed is HTML markup, like this:
> >> >>
> >> >> <h2>Tilg=E6ngelighed og Styring</h2>
> >> >> <p>
> >> >> Apache OpenOffice er tilg=E6ngelig gratis for enhver bruger og form=
=E5l,
> >> >> og kan downloades fra <a
> >> >> href=3D"http://openoffice.org">http://openoffice.org</a>. Productet
> >> >> downloades et ubegr=E6nset antal gange p=E5=A8PC for et ubegr=E6nse=
t antal af
> >> >> brugere - HELT GRATIS fri for alle licens afgifter. Projektet har e=
n
> >> >> st=E6rk fokusering p=E5 at st=F8tte open standards, fra ODF (der f=
=F8rst
> >> >> implementerede ISO/IEC 26300) til fremtidige planer for CMIS,
> >> >> OpenSocial, og OData.
> >> >> </p>
> >> >>
> >> >> Does this make sense?  You want the diff's to be HTML format as wel=
l.
> >> >>
> >> >> The difference for a Committer is they can then check in directly
> from
> >> >> the web interface, preview how it looks on our staging server, and
> >> >> then publish.
> >> >>
> >> >> Once a page is checked in then the template is applied.  Mdtext is
> >> >> converted to HTML, and the HTML is inserted into the "skeleton" of
> the
> >> >> template, with standard navigation, headers, footers and other page
> >> >> elements applied.  So when you think of a page, concentrate on the
> >> >> content.  The rest will come from the template.
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> -Rob
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > rgds
> >> >> > jan I.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 2012/10/19 Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> This won't work.  The existing page is HTML, so the additional
> text
> >> >> >> needs to be in HTML as well, including <p> for paragraphs and <a
> >> href>
> >> >> >> for hyperlinks, etc.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> One idea to simplify it would be to have only a "tease" of the
> story,
> >> >> >> maybe a sentence or two, and then link to this page for the full
> >> >> >> story:  http://www.openoffice.org/da/graduation.html
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> -Rob
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 2012/10/19 jan iversen <anonymous@apache.org>:
> >> >> >> > Clone URL (Committers only):
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> https://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=3Danonymous;action=3Ddiff;uri=3Dhttp:=
//ooo-site.apache.org/da%2Findex.html
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > jan iversen
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Index: trunk/content/da/index.html
> >> >> >> >
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> >> >> >> > --- trunk/content/da/index.html (revision 1399994)
> >> >> >> > +++ trunk/content/da/index.html (working copy)
> >> >> >> > @@ -1,3 +1,4 @@
> >> >> >> > +Added danish translation to DA page.
> >> >> >> >  <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN=
"
> >> >> >> >  "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
> >> >> >> >  <html lang=3D"da">
> >> >> >> > @@ -25,6 +26,37 @@
> >> >> >> >  <h2>Velkommen til Apache OpenOffice</h2>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > +       <h2>Apache Open Office er nu et top projekt hos
> Apache</h2>
> >> >> >> > +Apache software Foundation annoncerer Apache OpenOffice=99 so=
m et
> >> >> >> Top-Niveau Projekt
> >> >> >> > +
> >> >> >> > +Pris vindende f=F8rende Open Source produktions pakke bredt
> brugt i
> >> >> over
> >> >> >> 228 lande, over 20 millioner download af den seneste version sid=
en
> >> maj
> >> >> 2012.
> >> >> >> > +
> >> >> >> > +Forest Hill, MD =96 18 Oktober 2012 =96 Apache Software Found=
ation
> >> (ASF),
> >> >> >>  den udelukkende frivillige udviklere og kuv=F8ser af n=E6sten 1=
50
> Open
> >> >> Source
> >> >> >> projekter og initativer, annoncerede idag at Apache Open Office =
er
> >> >> overg=E5et
> >> >> >> fra Apache kuv=F8se til at blive et Top-Niveau Projekt (TNP),
> visende
> >> at
> >> >> >> projektets sanfund og produkt er blevet styret godt og korrekt
>  under
> >> >> ASF
> >> >> >> udvide demokratiske proces og principper.
> >> >> >> > +
> >> >> >> > +"Best=E5elsen er for  OpenOffice et bevis p=E5 Apache vejens
> >> successfulde
> >> >> >> skalering fra kuv=F8se til 'indholds branding' til et  meget
> etableret
> >> >> >> slut-bruger produkt"," sagde ASF vice pr=E6sidenten og Apache
> >> OpenOffice
> >> >> >> mentor Ross Gardler. "Kuv=F8se processen tillader erfarne Apache
> >> >> bidragsydere
> >> >> >> at guide projelt, hj=E6lpe b=E5de nye og etablerede OpenOffice
> >> bidragsydere
> >> >> at
> >> >> >> bygge et Apache-stil samfund som er b=E5de =E5bent og fordelt."
> >> >> >> > +
> >> >> >> > +"OpenOffice best=E5elsen er den officielle anerkendelse at
> >> projektet er
> >> >> >> nu i stand til at lede sig selv ikke kun i teknisk henseende, me=
n
> >> ogs=E5 i
> >> >> >> samfunds sp=F8rgsm=E5l.," sagde Andrea Pescetti, vice pr=E6siden=
t hos
> >> Apache
> >> >> >> OpenOffice. "'Apache vejen' og den metoder, som f.eks. at tage
> hver
> >> >> >> beslutning i offentligheden med total gennemsigtighed, har tilla=
dt
> >> >> >> projektet at tiltr=E6kke og engagere nye frivillige, og til at
> v=E6lge og
> >> >> >> fordele Projekt Ledelses Kommitteen som vil garantere en stabil
> >> fremtid
> >> >> for
> >> >> >> Apache OpenOffice."
> >> >> >> > +
> >> >> >> > +Indledningsvis lavet af Star Division in the 1990's, blev
> >> OpenOffice
> >> >> >> code basen k=F8bt af Sun Microsystems in 1999 og senere Oracle
> >> >> Corporation in
> >> >> >> 2010, inden den blev sendt til The Apache Software Foundation
> kuv=F8se
> >> i
> >> >> Juni
> >> >> >> 2011.
> >> >> >> > +
> >> >> >> > +Under udviklings perioden i Apache kuv=F8sen, har Apache
> OpenOffice
> >> >> >> projektet overflyttet n=E6sten 10 million kode linier, tilf=F8rt
> utallige
> >> >> >> udvidelser, og fikset dusinvis af bruger-rapporterede fejl i den
> >> >> popul=E6re
> >> >> >> og gratis produktions pakke. Som tilf=F8jelse, har softwaren
> modtaget 5
> >> >> >> industri priser, rangerende fra individuelle komponent top punkt=
er
> >> over
> >> >> top
> >> >> >> downloading til den bedste open source produktions pakke.
> >> >> >> > +
> >> >> >> > +I Maj 2012 blev Apache OpenOffice v3.4 offentliggjort p=E5 20
> sprog
> >> >> >> (redakt=F8r: den danske er ved kvalitetstesten), og downloaded m=
ere
> >> end 20
> >> >> >> millioner gange af enkelt personer, firmaer, skoler og statslige
> >> >> >> institutioner i over 228 lande. Siden det, har projektet arbejde=
t
> p=E5
> >> nye
> >> >> >> funktioner, innovationer og releases m=E5lsat til f=F8rst og fje=
rde
> >> kvartal
> >> >> >> 2013.
> >> >> >> > +
> >> >> >> > +""It's really cool" at OpenOffice er nu et top-niveau projekt
> hos
> >> >> >> Apache," siger Juergen Schmidt, Apache OpenOffice Release Chef.
> "Vi
> >> har
> >> >> >> m=F8dt mange milep=E6le for at n=E5 denne milep=E6l: vores f=F8r=
ste
> OpenOffice
> >> 3.4
> >> >> >> release kr=E6vede af samfundet ikke bare flytning af koden fra
> Oracle
> >> til
> >> >> >> apache, men ogs=E5 at udskifte ugyldigt licenserede biblioteker =
for
> >> >> >> succesfuldt at m=F8de Apache licens krav. Nu er vores Apache
> OpenOffice
> >> >> kilde
> >> >> >> code frit tilg=E6ngeligt for projekter og organisationer."
> >> >> >> > +
> >> >> >> > +"Vi er meget stolte af denne vigtige milep=E6l og byder
> OpenOffice
> >> >> >> velkommen i vores fold af verdens ledende Apache projekter,"
> tilf=F8jer
> >> >> >> Gardler.
> >> >> >> > +
> >> >> >> > +Tilg=E6ngelighed og Styring
> >> >> >> > +Apache OpenOffice er tilg=E6ngelig gratis for enhver bruger o=
g
> >> form=E5l,
> >> >> og
> >> >> >> kan downloades fra http://openoffice.org. Productet downloades e=
t
> >> >> >> ubegr=E6nset antal gange p=E5=A8PC for et ubegr=E6nset antal af =
brugere -
> >> HELT
> >> >> >> GRATIS fri for alle licens afgifter. Projektet har en st=E6rk
> >> fokusering
> >> >> p=E5
> >> >> >> at st=F8tte open standards, fra ODF (der f=F8rst implementerede
> ISO/IEC
> >> >> 26300)
> >> >> >> til fremtidige planer for CMIS, OpenSocial, og OData.
> >> >> >> > +
> >> >> >> > +Som med al Apache software, er Apache OpenOffice software
> released
> >> >> >> under Apache Licens v2.0, og bliver kontrolleret af et selv valg=
t
> >> team
> >> >> af
> >> >> >> aktive bidragsydere til projektet. En Projekt Ledelses Kommitte
> (PLK)
> >> >> >> guidesr Projektets dag-til-dag opgaver, inklusive samfunds
> udvikling
> >> og
> >> >> >> produkt releases. Information om Apache OpenOffice kilde dode,
> >> >> >> dokumentation, e-mail lister, dettilh=F8rende resourcer, og veje
> til at
> >> >> >> deltage er tilg=E6ngelige p=E5 http://openoffice.apache.org/.
> >> >> >> > +
> >> >> >> > +Om Apache Software Foundation (ASF)
> >> >> >> > +Etableret i 1999, en helt frivilligt fundament kontrollerer
> n=E6sten
> >> >> >> femhundrede ledende Open Source projekter, inklusive Apache HTTP
> >> Server
> >> >> =97
> >> >> >> verdens mest popul=E6re  Web server software. Igennem ASF udvide=
de
> >> >> >> demokratiske proces kendt som "The Apache Way", med mere end 400
> >> >> >> individuelle medlemmer og 3.500 "Committers" successfuldt at
> >> samarbejde
> >> >> for
> >> >> >> at udvikle frit tilg=E6ngelig virksomheds egnet software, tilgod=
eser
> >> >> >> millioner at brugere over hele verden: tusinder af software
> l=F8sninger
> >> >> >> distribueres under Apache Licensen; og samfundet deltager aktivt=
 i
> >> ASF
> >> >> >> e-mail lister, motiveret initiativer, og ApacheCon, Foundation
> >> >> officielle
> >> >> >> bruger konference tr=E6ning, og udstilling. ASF er i USA 501(3)(=
c)
> >> >> >> not-for-profit charity, grundlagt af individuelle donorer og
> >> sponsorer
> >> >> af
> >> >> >> firmaer inkluderende AMD, Basis Teknologi, Citrix, Cloudera,
> >> Facebook,
> >> >> Go
> >> >> >> Daddy, Google, HP, Hortonworks, Huawei, IBM, InMotion Hosting,
> Matt
> >> >> >> Mullenweg, Microsoft, PSW Group, SpringSource/VMware, WANdisco, =
og
> >> >> Yahoo!.
> >> >> >> For m
> >> >> >> >  ere information, bes=F8gt http://www.apache.org/ eller f=F8lg
> >> @TheASF p=E5
> >> >> >> Twitter.
> >> >> >> > +
> >> >> >> > +"Apache", "OpenOffice", "Apache OpenOffice", og "ApacheCon" e=
r
> >> >> >> varem=E6rker af Apache Software Foundation. Alle andre m=E6rker =
og
> >> >> varem=E6rker
> >> >> >> ejes af de respektive ejere.
> >> >> >> > +
> >> >> >> >         <h2>Den danske version af OpenOffice 3.4 er under
> >> >> >> udarbejdelse</h2>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >         <p>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>

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