Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 33702D47E for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:52:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 87636 invoked by uid 500); 29 Oct 2012 13:52:15 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 87511 invoked by uid 500); 29 Oct 2012 13:52:15 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 87484 invoked by uid 99); 29 Oct 2012 13:52:14 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:52:14 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of jancasacondor@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.214.175] (HELO mail-ob0-f175.google.com) (209.85.214.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:52:06 +0000 Received: by mail-ob0-f175.google.com with SMTP id eq6so4560595obc.6 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 06:51:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=SOgQoddAwWqx5CPuKZKtHy1/H6NpHG1yE9frdIpWYh4=; b=ECmWi6UQTG/WIbXMGnup+QbyjQI+1rB9+LUi9q7TMqFx6VFG7QtwYv81QS0Z/YulMJ c9Zh/uJ+U3mrjmpHoujjUUZLiRP7+Yp4EvFbzCYjEyjik5N8yPa5AbvqNMJ1vlA8rNCR ULtxvo3A5Y3ufaexp5wa5vq1UO5zM7qcpxuwYrO37qDrYg6UUUALk89KpRhE7LmR/5GY Gk7CKXWgJdmqFZxH6lgA9RfCZB02Dj38kNkK59qvhFZU1ntfOpqt6PBnTER+8plmEtg6 /iymURp6MZaumleYFYElvbdCviZvGZt0kii9OHfg2MgsDiqpeif0AIQZ3ZhsLtdxXzKJ R89g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.0.1 with SMTP id 1mr24659436oba.18.1351518705648; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 06:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.91.9 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 06:51:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <43364B84-FF5D-4882-A642-4065AD4D99A4@gmail.com> References: <508DB1C7.6050302@apache.org> <43364B84-FF5D-4882-A642-4065AD4D99A4@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:51:45 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks From: jan iversen To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043bdf425b826104cd32f82f X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --f46d043bdf425b826104cd32f82f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think asking me would be wrong...I would come with the much to complicated answers :-) I really like the idea of simple start page, for people who want to help without getting so deeply involved as I am trying to become. May I suggest a wiki page, where we constantly (very frequently write) - these items needs to be translated to (languages missing) - these items (e.g. user doc) needs to be enhanced updated. - and something like, feel free to start with any of these items, that would really help AOO. People like myself, is partly beyond help, meaning the best way to help us, is for someone to be a mentor. Above a given level it becomes too difficult to write documentaion and much easier to have a mentor (which would save this list for a lot of noise, for which I apologize). jan. On 29 October 2012 05:14, Louis Su=E1rez-Potts wrote: > > On 12-10-28, at 19:30 , Rob Weir wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Andrea Pescetti > wrote: > >> On 23/10/2012 Rob Weir wrote: > >>> > >>> New Volunteer Orientation root page: > >>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/orientation/ > >> > >> > >> This is an excellent resource. But we received a few requests from > >> prospective volunteers this weekend and I'm believing it would be > >> overwhelming to point them there. I still believe these documents are > >> excellent, but probably they are assuming our volunteer is above > average, or > >> at least willing to engage deeply with the project. They would be > perfect > >> for me, for you, or for a newcomer like Jan who has the skills and the > >> mindset to understand in detail how things work. > >> > > > > And how do we know in advance which volunteers are like Jan and which > are not? > > > > I think we should find some way to point them to the info and say that > > they are welcome to jump in and ignore this all, or skim it in > > parallel with direct participation, or read through this stuff first. > > It is entirely up to them. > > I agree. One thing that worked sometimes at Ye Olde OpenOffice was simply > to ask Jan and others what they would want there to make life easier for = us > all. This strategy has a couple of advantages. One is that by crowdsourci= ng > it one can plausibly get answers that differ from the ones we, so familia= r > with this site and what we do would not come up with, and two, share the > responsibility of improvement with the community affected. That latter is > goodness. > > -louis --f46d043bdf425b826104cd32f82f--