Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 949449919 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:07:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 45305 invoked by uid 500); 26 Oct 2012 21:07:17 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 45234 invoked by uid 500); 26 Oct 2012 21:07:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 45222 invoked by uid 99); 26 Oct 2012 21:07:17 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:07:17 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of luispo@gmail.com designates 209.85.223.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.223.175] (HELO mail-ie0-f175.google.com) (209.85.223.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:07:09 +0000 Received: by mail-ie0-f175.google.com with SMTP id c13so4443183ieb.6 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:06:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject :message-id:date:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=4LD1iMv8nhhTOpFuwM02nsz3GwZjFh3Thhi0STXmyLc=; b=HJZrzSg1hsaW2bZidNRH+ii2sOFDcJnIqhPFP+jwKd9hWiCw0TmZ/9LcKKn1sH010b 4n50msQ6TGyxaKl+ateM4Y4SUUHw5cqlChgqw8BjM6k/23FWmzYZWvvp9nS8VGC35z07 142UR9LgojAxSaTS/Z1i9/ZKukg/M1zpfd+EqPFW0dHR45kaXGX6ixx5PRiMGwwAYDrJ sJPLldFwCx/4TbNY/GnocIY74TaWT1KV1JmSllrZmtz/rZiyLL4kf3idXIQ5LISBUDwP udMALSwJYnB5SWK56gVcO0XU11aUDjcMWbSVxCn6SGVlkjlhf2g1gPBMhBpFfAm/EAe8 Uvjw== Received: by 10.50.217.169 with SMTP id oz9mr3506193igc.15.1351285608679; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.13] (CPEb8c75dcf6003-CMbcc810021507.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com. [174.119.119.55]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bg10sm519113igc.6.2012.10.26.14.06.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Sender: =?UTF-8?Q?Louis_Su=C3=A1rez=2DPotts?= From: =?windows-1252?Q?Louis_Su=E1rez-Potts?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: The Impossible Question Message-Id: <8CFAD525-1815-4275-B7BF-1F398A2BB25D@apache.org> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:06:45 -0400 To: "ooo-dev@incubator ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hi Every now and then a user finds the experience of downloading, = installing, using AOO disappointing and frankly frustrating if not = worse. They will usually go to the user forums, but sometimes they will = contact the Apache Foundation directly. Okay, but this does not really = help them. What we did with OpenOffice was set up a Support page, which has since = been moved to here, http://www.openoffice.org/support/. It's pretty much = an improved version of the old but of course the "ecosystem" needs = further fleshing out=97it suffers from a lack of substantial existence. I'm also not persuaded that the route to it from either the application = download page or homepage or wherever is redundantly clear enough for = the befuddled enduser who installs AOO to replace his or her whatever = suite and doesn't really know where to go=85.. So, my query is the usual impossible question: What can we do to make it = clearer to the puzzled and frustrated how to get help? Sure, we can have = a knowledge base (kb), FAQ, etc., and also enthusiastic community = members.=20 But what would you suggest as a path, or paths for the user? I = personally would include something in the installation sets that point = to the support page above; but also banners, say, or tags, = stickers=97glaringly obvious neon coloured blinking lights?=97to relay = users to useful pages. Ideas? Thanks Louis