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[195.212.29.172]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g8sm1511360bkv.6.2012.10.30.08.56.50 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 30 Oct 2012 08:56:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <508FF8C0.30002@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:56:48 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_Schmidt?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: proposal for new l10n workflow References: <5089A8A1.3000301@apache.org> <508FC6A3.1060304@gmail.com> <508FD617.8080607@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 10/30/12 2:45 PM, jan iversen wrote: > If my page needs updating, feel free to do so, I actually copied all the > scripts things from the other page. I see it now, I must have been blind earlier, sorry for the confusion Juergen > > jan. > > On 30 October 2012 14:28, J�rgen Schmidt wrote: > >> On 10/30/12 1:33 PM, jan iversen wrote: >>> I just double checked: >>> >>> the pointer is: Localization >>> AOO, which clearly >>> stated (the very first lines of the document) >>> >>> "This document is based on and extents >>> Localization_for_developers< >> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Localization_for_developers>. >>> The document is work in progress showing the result of a detailed >> technical >>> analysis of the current process (version 3.4.1) . As such this document >>> should be seen as a replacement of >>> Localization_for_developers< >> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Localization_for_developers> >>> ." >> >> I simply missed some basic info how the tools have to be used etc.. I >> was confused... >> >>> >>> >>> But I will happely remove it if you prefer, but then where do I put a >> link >>> to the more detailed description of the CURRENT process. >> >> no need to remove it now, I know whats behind and as long as nobody >> delete it I am fine >> >> Juergen >> >>> >>> jan. >>> >>> On 30 October 2012 13:30, jan iversen wrote: >>> >>>> I am guilty. >>>> >>>> see below. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 30 October 2012 13:22, J�rgen Schmidt wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 10/27/12 10:51 PM, jan iversen wrote: >>>>>> Based on the comments I have received, I have updated the document. >>>>>> >>>>>> The major changes are: >>>>>> >>>>>> - removed l10n web page tools >>>>>> - no auto-commit in any tools >>>>>> - proposed changes to pootle server (based on request from andrea, to >>>>>> use/change existing tools) >>>>>> - added more text on the translation workflow, inkl. local teams >>>>>> >>>>>> The document is available as pdf: >>>>>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/File:L10procNew2.pdf >>>>>> and (due to a polite hint) as a wiki page: >>>>>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Localization_AOO/new_proposal >>>>>> Furthermore a projectplan is available as a wiki page: >>>>>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Localization_AOO/workPlan >>>>>> >>>>>> this mail is posted on both ooo-L10n and ooo-dev, but please use >> ooo-dev >>>>>> for discussions. >>>>> >>>>> I noticed that somebody put an "outdated" template on >>>>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Localization_for_developers which I >>>>> think is a little bit early. >>>>> >>>>> The new page is a great resource to discuss a new workflow and >> necessary >>>>> improvements. But the currently "Localization for developers" page >>>>> describes how it works today. >>>>> >>>> The page it points to, is NOT the new proposal, that would be wrong, but >>>> the first I made with a more detailed description of how it works today. >>>> >>>> I hope that is ok ? >>>> >>>>> >>>>> We should avoid confusion here, the new process is under development >> yet >>>>> but not available yet. >>>>> >>>> I totally agree, and I have not made links that suggest otherwise. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Juergen >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Andrea: >>>>>> I hope you have time to see if your suggestions are well represented >>>>> now, >>>>>> so this document could be used as discussion basis when you meet the >>>>> pootle >>>>>> people. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Have a nice evening. >>>>>> jan I. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >