Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E618AD145 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 22:30:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21265 invoked by uid 500); 28 Oct 2012 22:30:00 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 21186 invoked by uid 500); 28 Oct 2012 22:30:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 21178 invoked by uid 99); 28 Oct 2012 22:30:00 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 22:30:00 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [208.113.200.5] (HELO homiemail-a50.g.dreamhost.com) (208.113.200.5) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 22:29:51 +0000 Received: from homiemail-a50.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a50.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D046F8062; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (unknown [151.67.87.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: andrea@pescetti.it) by homiemail-a50.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6EED96F8058; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <508DB1C7.6050302@apache.org> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 23:29:27 +0100 From: Andrea Pescetti User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111108 Fedora/3.1.16-1.fc14 Thunderbird/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 23/10/2012 Rob Weir wrote: > New Volunteer Orientation root page: > http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/orientation/ This is an excellent resource. But we received a few requests from prospective volunteers this weekend and I'm believing it would be overwhelming to point them there. I still believe these documents are excellent, but probably they are assuming our volunteer is above average, or at least willing to engage deeply with the project. They would be perfect for me, for you, or for a newcomer like Jan who has the skills and the mindset to understand in detail how things work. But we will also have (and we do have: most volunteers I see on the mailing lists in Italian fall in this category) volunteers who don't care that much about OpenOffice as a project: they use the product and just want to give something back. They want to scratch an itch, or just to do something, but they are very task-oriented: they want something to do rather than something to read. For example, we may have translation volunteers who would be perfectly satisfied if we e-mail them a PO file and tell them to grab POEdit and send the file back; and then they would consider a deeper engagement, but not earlier. And indeed they are not totally wrong: knowing how the Apache Board works is not needed to be able to translate a press release, or a few OpenOffice strings, into Italian. Could it be that we need a "practical" entry point for people who want to help and just want to do it immediately? Placing these information at level 3 of the "Volunteer Orientation" seems too much for volunteers who want to jump in and do something (while, again, the orientation guide is excellent for a skilled, determined volunteer). Regards, Andrea.