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On 09/29/2012 02:27 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net
> <mailto:dave2wave@comcast.net>> wrote:
>
>
>     On Sep 29, 2012, at 1:24 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>
>      >
>      > On Sep 29, 2012, at 9:24 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>      >
>      >> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
>      >> <arielch@apache.org <mailto:arielch@apache.org>>wrote:
>      >>
>      >>> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 10:12:25AM -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>      >>>> What makes this different from our other SSI uses is we need
>     to limit
>      >>>> the number of articles displayed.   We want to avoid having an
>      >>>> open-ended list of articles appear on the home page, since
>     that would
>      >>>> just length the page and put the important footer info far
>     down.  It
>      >>>> would be ugly as well.  So ideally we want some logic that
>     puts the
>      >>>> 5 or so most recent stories on the home page, and then puts
>     the full
>      >>>> list of articles on the dedicated news page.  Or maybe even does
>      >>>> something fancier, like group articles by month or year on the
>     news
>      >>>> page.  But minimum requirement is probably to be able to limit
>     number
>      >>>> of articles on home page.
>      >>>>
>      >>>> Is this something that is easy/possible to do with the way
>     we're using
>      >>>> the CMS?
>      >>>
>      >>
>      >> Well it would be done with the CSS "frame" idea I mentioned.  So
>     we could
>      >> limit the initial length. and basically enwble a scrolling like
>     approach..
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>> the main Apache site uses a module to generate the "News",
>      >>> http://openejb.apache.org/ too.
>      >>>
>      >>
>      >> Ariel --
>      >>
>      >> Thanks for pointing this out. This approach was mentioned in
>     that  same
>      >> chat I had concerning ssi, but I couldn't readily find any
>     additional
>      >> information. So, I'll take a look when I get a moment.
>      >>
>      >> and ...
>      >>
>      >> @Dave, re ssi. I know we use these for the header portion but I also
>      >> realize this is a like a one time thing that basically only
>     happens at site
>      >> build (commit, publish) and is not a continual dynamic parse
>     like enabling
>      >> ssi for the site would be, right?
>      >
>      > Correct.
>      >
>      >> There seemed to be concern about the
>      >> overhead for ssi on a continual basis, even with specifying say
>     an ".shtml"
>      >> extension. Plus, the concern about enabling this for such
>     limited use.
>      >
>      >>
>      >> Anyway, if we could do this via the CMS for "occasional" news
>     items, ti
>      >> would be better I guess.
>      >
>      > Exactly. Just edit a news.xml file and setup the CMS to use xsltproc.
>      >
>      >>
>      >> More investigation needed...
>      >
>      > Please see my response in the consultants thread. This has almost
>     the whole explanation. Additional information pertinent to both threads:
>      >
>      > (1) templates/html_fragment.html
>      >
>      > A new template is required for generated html fragments.
>      >
>      > <div id="{{ headers.divid }}">{% block content %}{{ content|safe
>     }}{% endblock %}</div>
>      >
>      > The headers.divid can be injected in (3) below.
>      >
>      > (2) lib/path.pm <http://path.pm>
>      >
>      > Has name to lib/view.pm <http://view.pm> proc and templates/
>     mappings for different file types. XSLT types will need to be added.
>     (Also for consultants.xml)
>      >
>      > our @patterns = (
>      >    [qr!doctype.mdtext$!, single_narrative => { template =>
>     "doctype.html" }],
>      >    [qr!brand.mdtext$!, single_narrative => { template =>
>     "brand.html" }],
>      >    [qr!footer.mdtext$!, single_narrative => { template =>
>     "footer.html" }],
>      >    [qr!topnav.mdtext$!, single_narrative => { template =>
>     "navigator.html" }],
>      >    [qr!leftnav.mdtext$!, single_narrative => { template =>
>     "navigator.html" }],
>      >    [qr!rightnav.mdtext$!, single_narrative => { template =>
>     "navigator.html" }],
>      >    [qr!\.mdtext$!, single_narrative => { template =>
>     "single_narrative.html" }],
>      >    [qr!\.html$!, html_page => { template => "html_page.html" }],
>      >    [qr!\.htm$!, html_page => { template => "html_page.html" }],
>      > ) ;
>      >
>      > Add something like the follwoing to convert an xml into an html
>     file to be included via ssi.
>      >
>      >    [qr!news.xml$!, news_page => { template =>
>     "html_fragment.html" }],
>
>     Of course it would probably easiest to create news.mdtext and add
>
>         [qr!news.mdtext$!, single_narrative => { template =>
>     "navigator.html" }],
>
>     Set the divid in news.mdtext for the css class for the overall news div.
>
>     Regards,
>     Dave

yes...looking into this more it's become clear to me that this will 
involve changes to at least our view.pm....so I will need to get going 
on the "local" setup business to test some things out.


more later ...


>
>
> Ok,  --  where is this "consultants" thread ????
>
> One day I will do a schematic on how the CMS works...
>
>
>
>
>
>      >
>      > Add something like the following to convert an xml into a full
>     site page.
>      >
>      >    [qr!consultatnts.xml$!, consultants_page => { template =>
>     "html_page.html" }],
>      >
>      >
>      > (3) lib/view.pm <http://view.pm>
>      >
>      > news_page and consultants_page are new procedures. See xsltproc
>     information on the other thread.
>      >
>      > Regards,
>      > Dave
>      >
>      >
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>> See
>      >>>
>      >>>
>     http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site/trunk/newsfeed/README.txt
>      >>> It seems the DEFAULT_FEED_LOCATION is set to
>      >>> http://blogs.apache.org/foundation/feed/entries/rss , see
>      >>>
>      >>>
>     http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site/trunk/newsfeed/src/org/apache/site/Newsfeed.java
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> Regards
>      >>> --
>      >>> Ariel Constenla-Haile
>      >>> La Plata, Argentina
>      >>>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> --
>      >>
>     ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>      >> MzK
>      >>
>      >> "Just 'cause you got the monkey off your back
>      >> doesn't mean the circus has left town."
>      >>                   -- George Carlin
>      >
>
>
>
>
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
>
> "Just 'cause you got the monkey off your back
>   doesn't mean the circus has left town."
>                      -- George Carlin
>
>
>

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