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On 12-10-24, at 14:35 , jan iversen <jancasacondor@gmail.com> wrote:

> May I politely ask if there are other comments or more importantly
> objections ?

Press on. And expect to be patient: this is a volunteer effort. I'd =
also, if I were you, see about highlighting this effort at ApacheCon EU =
or NA (next year). If you cannot personally make the EU event, you can =
ask a surrogate, perhaps. But the issue is indeed very important, at =
least as I see it. For it leads to expanding the AOO contributor base, =
being that localization efforts are among the most interesting to a =
range of audiences, who rightly see a localized AOO as much easier to =
work with than one in English.

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> If not I will continue with the process and keep you posted, please
> remember comments are also welcome as the new workflow takes shape.

Please! also, don't hesitate to use other channels, such as Facebook, =
our wikis, etc.

best
louis

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> Jan I.
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> On 24 October 2012 20:18, jan iversen <jancasacondor@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Thanks for your kind words.
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>> see below please:
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>> On 24 October 2012 19:49, Louis Su=E1rez-Potts <luispo@gmail.com> =
wrote:
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>>> Hi Jan,
>>>=20
>>> On 12-10-16, at 12:22 , jan iversen <jancasacondor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> Finally I have finished describing the current process, and also
>>> combining
>>>> all the notes on open issues I could find.
>>>>=20
>>> Thanks. A lot of work. Last it was dealt with was probably (prior to
>>> Apache's advent) back in=85. I hate to say, "last century."
>>>=20
>>>> Please have a look at:
>>>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/File:L10proc.pdf
>>> Indeed.
>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> and
>>>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Localization_AOO
>>>>=20
>>>> I hope we can have a discussion on the "open issues", and then I =
will
>>> make
>>>> a design document for a changed workflow.
>>>>=20
>>>> I look forward to hear your opinion, either through wiki or mail. =
These
>>>> comments will be worked into the document.
>>>>=20
>>>> have a nice day.
>>>> jan I
>>>=20
>>> I'll go over it. Usually, as others no doubt will mention, my =
impression
>>> is that a big issue has always been qualifying the outcome, =
incorporating
>>> input, and normalizing it, so that what happens in, say, January, =
can be
>>> expected to continue on into the future.
>>>=20
>> It was a big job, first describing the current process and run it =
several
>> times to make sure I understood it, and then think about how to do =
more
>> robust and future oriented. I have had a helping hand from my =
professional
>> background where I used to manage project with these kind of =
problemsets.
>>=20
>> I would appreciate any input, this is a floating process,
>> development/discussion.
>>=20
>>=20
>>>=20
>>> A sidle point has perhaps also do with working with the LibreOffice
>>> team=97and others working using similar strings, e.g., those nice =
people at
>>> that Mozilla project, among others. Under the Sun regime, licensing =
issues
>>> foreclosed that option. I'd hate to think we are still hobbled by =
political
>>> considerations and that these undercut the terrific enterprise of =
people
>>> like you.
>>>=20
>> I am very open minded to that respect, but honestly I have no idea =
what
>> the apache policy is.
>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Thanks
>>> Louis
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