Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 45DB49E72 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 01:07:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 55074 invoked by uid 500); 14 Oct 2012 01:07:58 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 55021 invoked by uid 500); 14 Oct 2012 01:07:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 55011 invoked by uid 99); 14 Oct 2012 01:07:58 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 01:07:58 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [98.139.91.95] (HELO nm25.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com) (98.139.91.95) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 01:07:47 +0000 Received: from [98.139.91.70] by nm25.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Oct 2012 01:07:25 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.18] by tm10.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Oct 2012 01:07:25 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1018.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Oct 2012 01:07:25 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 688504.97997.bm@omp1018.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 78806 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Oct 2012 01:07:25 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1350176845; bh=timagC/aZRXwyf3w5WARB6f58y0dt77GwgTrjeqCpTA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-RocketYMMF:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZYZ7YBlEEW88U0GH2/GOGq99YuBlzCqZAmScIL4AUqPCiLzUIG63tYFdXiEJvZcgJKdps/sVMvgL25KmwaTDiIcu9hBAfZ2wPqwb4DstEb+vmAbSr/giyfIvmFNSJfiqZ3PAi7nsgeblcopbjD/MZ9K/esZilpot95RSH6eJw/E= X-YMail-OSG: k0iyRB4VM1nju1tHeCJx4bYK_2e1tEs8PIhtTHq19jEssYz gGmVn4dq3KNpC7bFGIwqsS4fOoaA1_P65l2yU1VZHSf3S76b7j1j_Sj9BpoU aKruOGShSsnWaeeu2UF5U.5MoHGEjy_wa4n3YDr7Wmr2rpo0E5EdgbY1Zmx_ r6ZucLgVOiyyZOi0iEVihoLL6LnXbeIF8bAcHJJlikr3CpSOpRUaac4nCxRZ 2yd.0R1m.j5g1_hHSnzCElpW3F1vlIQ_HPN9EgK3Ha0NCtBVtpW77dsLRnid TpNMRQfHBfesg2SgMF_2tkMQfYuBaRQlYKeQJLjp3AH2DvZEckG1kSwhK_OU F1AhV3_7DYilOCNxQuWdMXwsvxn893conDYxxJcWNsDigGVQcNCx0Ykw0QgI vnhY_VwGBfyQ5qbfI1GpbxKCKb1g5B8.y4bjI6SJskpTHji16bwuAN.Qrw0W 5idEvaXEeqavifmfAHKbksuoIogvouxiGkp1MhR6VlUH9NEQ- Received: from [200.118.157.7] by web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:07:24 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,SGkgQW5kcmV3OwoKCi0tLS0tIE9yaWdpbmFsIE1lc3NhZ2UgLS0tLS0KLi4uCj4gCj4gQ291cGxlIG9mIHF1ZXN0aW9uczoKPiAKPiAoUSkgaXQgd2FzIHN0YXRlZCB0byBtZSBhdCBvbmUgdGltZSB0aGF0IGludGVncmF0aW5nIGNoYW5nZXMgYmV0d2VlbiBBT08gYW5kIExPIAo.IHdvdWxkIG5vdCBiZSBvdmVybHkgY29tcGxpY2F0ZWQgKGJhZCBtZW1vcnksIGJ1dCBtYXliZSBpdCB3YXMgVG9tIERhdmlzIAo.IHJlZmVyZW5jaW5nIHRoZSBmYWN0IHRoYXQgU3ltcGhvbnkgd2FzIGtlcHQgaW4gc3luYyB3aXQBMAEBAQE- X-RocketYMMF: giffunip X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.123.450 References: <5079EFB7.507@pitonyak.org> Message-ID: <1350176844.78635.YahooMailNeo@web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:07:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Pedro Giffuni Reply-To: Pedro Giffuni Subject: Re: Apache OO General Questions To: "ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org" , "andrew@pitonyak.org" In-Reply-To: <5079EFB7.507@pitonyak.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hi Andrew;=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message -----=0A...=0A> =0A> Couple of qu= estions:=0A> =0A> (Q) it was stated to me at one time that integrating chan= ges between AOO and LO =0A> would not be overly complicated (bad memory, bu= t maybe it was Tom Davis =0A> referencing the fact that Symphony was kept i= n sync with OOo). Are any changes =0A> integrated between AOO and LO (in ei= ther direction) at this time? I have been =0A> asked this question specific= ally (as it related to the code clean-up effort in =0A> LO), and I generall= y say "I don't know, but I don't think so".=0A>=A0=0A=0ASome of it has happ= ened in both ways. I won't talk about the LO "relicensing"=0Abecause=A0I si= mply don't understand how it is supposed to work and ultimately=0AI am not = a lawyer.=0A=0AIn the case of AOO. I have in my HD some code that authors h= ave agreed to=0Acontribute. The code will remain uncommitted because:=0A=0A= - In one case the code is big enough that I need a signed iCLA and while th= e=0Aauthor has=A0agreed he hasn't really had time lately.=0A- In another ca= se the code is not big but I have requested the patches be=0Asubmitted thro= ugh bugzilla to keep a record of the contribution (private=0Aemail is not t= rustable nowadays).=0A=0AIn both cases I can wait: the code is not critical= , just nice to have.=0A=0AI wish it were easier to contribute though: we ca= nnot expect someone to go=0Aover=A0the trouble of porting and testing their= patches twice. This said, the=0Alatest=A0versions of LO introduce bugs tha= t I can't reproduce on AOO. AOO is=0Avery stable and we want to keep it tha= t way.=0A=0A> =0A> (Q) AOO lists use addresses such as ooo-dev@incubator.ap= ache.org and =0A> ooo-api@incubator.apache.org. Assuming that AOO is taken = from incubator status, =0A> will incubator be dropped from the list names a= nd will current subscribers be =0A> ported to the new list?=0A>=A0=0A=0AI w= ould think so, yes.=0A=0APedro.