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From Rob Weir <>
Subject Re: Help us brainstorm ideas for Apache OpenOffice 4.0
Date Mon, 01 Oct 2012 16:53:10 GMT
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Rob Weir <> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Rob Weir <> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Rob Weir <> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Rob Weir <> wrote:
>>>> As we perform the final preparations to release Apache OpenOffice
>>>> 3.4.1 it is a good time to look ahead to the future.  A big
>>>> opportunity is OpenOffice 4.0.  That once seemed so very far away, but
>>>> 2013 is getting closer every day.   Will it be a large collection of
>>>> small ideas?  Will it have a major overarching theme?  Or will it just
>>>> be whatever random stuff we happen to have on a given date when we
>>>> release 4.0?   The answer, of course, depends on what we, as project
>>>> members/volunteers decide to do.   It is a good time now, as a
>>>> background activity, to poll the community and wider ecosystem on
>>>> ideas for Apache OpenOffice 4.0.
>>>> To participate, go to this page on Google Moderator, where you can
>>>> help us gather and rate ideas:
>>>> A few project members have already "seeded" this with some initial
>>>> ideas. Of course, you are encouraged to add your own ideas, as well as
>>>> rate the ideas of others.   Try not to censor yourself from thinking
>>>> outside-of-the-box.  We need big ideas as well as incremental ones.
>>>> We don't have a close date on this brainstorming activity, but it is
>>>> good to get your ideas in early, so there is an opportunity for others
>>>> to rate and comment on it.
>>> This brainstorming has been ongoing for 3 weeks now.  So far, so good.
>>>  The latest stats are:
>>> 533 people have submitted 456 ideas and cast 6,491 votes
>> Today, a week later:  633 users - 527 ideas - 7,607 votes
> And two days later, with no additional promotion other than placing a
> link on the home page, and we're at:
> ===> 807 people have submitted 652 ideas and cast 9,358 votes
> So we're still getting a good amount of visits and even new ideas.  I
> encourage everyone to review the new ideas as they come in.  Ideas are
> important, of course, but the collective rating of ideas is the key.
> As planned, I'll start to wrap this up on October 1st, next Tuesday.

Final count was:

1,095 people have submitted 885 ideas and cast 13,019 votes

So still coming in strong, though I detect a good amount of repetition
at this point.

I've exported a CSV snapshot of the results and checked it into SVN here:

It imports into OpenOffice well, if you configure to use commas as the
delimiter in the import dialog.  It has all of the ideas submitted, in
all of the categories, as well as per-idea positive and negative vote

I don't see any way to pause the Google Moderator instance or tell it
to stop allowing new submissions.  I put a comment on the homepage of
our "series" saying we were done and thanking those who had taken the
time to submit or rate ideas:

We do have the option of deleting the series altogether.  Otherwise
we're going to continue getting new ideas.  But is that a bad thing?
It is if no one from the project is monitoring it.  But "continuous
brainstorming" might have some value if we stay engaged with it.  On
the other hand, if it becomes a routine thing then it will confuse
some users between when they use Bugzilla (which also has a voting
mechanism) versus Google Moderator.  IMHO we should delete our
Moderator page, but set up a new one in the future if we want to do a
period of concentrated brain storming.  Maybe a more focused topic
next time.

So unless anyone really wants to see us keep that instance up, I'll
delete it next Monday.  (And remember we have a snapshot of all the
data in a CSV file in Subversion).



> -Rob
>> So we are still getting a good amount of feedback.  I added a mention
>> of this brainstorming on the website header.  That
>> should give this even more visibility.
>> I've heard from some that it would be good to get to a point where we
>> can take a "snapshot" of the feedback received, and process that, to
>> help set priorities for AOO 4.0.
>> Would it make sense to do that in another week, say on October 1st?
>> At that point we can:
>> 1) Put a "thank you" note on the Google Moderator page and stop
>> accepting new suggestions.  Point the users to the ooo-users or
>> ooo-dev mailing list instead,
>> 2) Export the ideas and scores received so far to a CSV file and
>> archive that someplace.
>> 3) Discuss the results received
>> 4) Maybe a blog post to highlight the brainstorming activity and the
>> results received?
>> Any other ideas?
>> I don't need to own any of this, but since I started it I'm willing to
>> finish it.  But if anyone else wants to take a lead on this, please
>> volunteer.
>> Regards,
>> -Rob
>>> If you have not reviewed the new ideas recently, it would be worth
>>> taking another look.  It is good that all ideas are rated, not just
>>> the ones that came in early.
>>> Maybe let it run to the end of September and then we can snapshot it
>>> and start analyzing the results?  Or mid October?  It would be good to
>>> wrap this up in advance of ApacheCon, so we can discuss further there.
>>> Regards,
>>> -Rob
>>>> Regards,
>>>> -Rob

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