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From Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Problems sign in consultants directory
Date Sun, 14 Oct 2012 15:40:08 GMT
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Alexandro Colorado <jza@oooes.org> wrote:
> On 10/14/12, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
>> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Alexandro Colorado <jza@oooes.org> wrote:
>>> Please write an example on the page, not just throw the XML file doing
>>> something as simple as
>>> <consultant>
>>> <company>Your company</company>
>>> <address>foo street at disneyland</address>
>>> <website>http://www.yourcompany.com</website>
>>> </consultant>
>>>
>>
>> There is an entire file of real examples linked to from that page:
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/bizdev/consultants/consultants.xml
>
> My point exactly. I would rather see this shown as HTML/ASCII, the XML
> dump is not bad but usually end up in  hard to read spew of data that
> non-technical users can't understand what happened.
>
>>
>>> Would go a long way, the instructions look a bit too technical for
>>> regular users. Even if we assume this are technical people, we should
>>> think this is being applied by the marketing intern used to facebook.
>>>
>>> I would even suggest doing an XForm to generate this XML and spew it
>>> on a texboard with a copy-paste this on your email.
>>>
>>
>> Patches are welcome.
>
> Here is an XForm sample:
> <xforms>
> <model>
> <instance>
>   <person>
>     <fname/>
>     <lname/>
>   </person>
> </instance>
> <submission id="form1"
> action="submit.asp"
> method="get"/>
> </model>
> <input ref="fname"><label>First Name</label></input>
> <input ref="lname"><label>Last Name</label></input>
> <submit submission="form1"><label>Submit</label></submit>
> </xforms>
>

The form is the easy part.  The hard part is getting it integrated in
a way that works with our current server environment.  As you've
probably noticed we don't have mail-in forms anywhere on our website.
Perhaps there are some security issues here?  Infra would know.  But
there would be some work to either enable the server-side processing
of this, or of generating the XML with instructions for the user to
copy/paste it into an email to ooo-dev.

Personally I don't think the expected volume of submissions justifies
the time required to put further automation into play.  (My personal
opinion).  As the instructions say, the submittor can just send
equivalent information to the list and we can do the XML formatting
for them.

-Rob

>>
>>> Specially consider the speciality would be all over the place as a
>>> freeform XML.
>>>
>>
>> In the current form it is restricted to enumerated values.  This list
>
> Oh there is a form, I most have missed that.
>
>> can expand on request, but I'd like to not have it be freeform so it
>> can be used as a categorization field.  The <description> field is the
>> freeform field, where they can put anything relevant.
>>
>>> On 10/14/12, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Jörg Schmidt <joesch@j-m-schmidt.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I now have sent an invitation to 41 companies relating to an entry in
>>>>> the
>>>>> directory:
>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html
>>>>>
>>>>> And I got the first reply:
>>>>>
>>>>> ----------------
>>>>>> Listings must be submitted to the ooo-dev mailing list as patches
to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> file consultants.xml
>>>>>  >
>>>>>
>>>>> nicht Ihr Ernst, oder?
>>>>> ----------------
>>>>>
>>>>> No problem in this individual case, because I offered my personal help,
>>>>> but I think it may seem too complicated for some users even having to
>>>>> create an XML file.
>>>>>
>>>>> What can we do?
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, i could write a macro for AOO with an input dialog, which
>>>>> simplifies the creation of the XML file. But I need a few days time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hints?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is covered in the instructions here:
>>>>
>>>> "If you are not familiar with XML, please submit the equivalent
>>>> information in a post to the ooo-dev list and we can help you format
>>>> it for submission. But your listing will appear faster if it is
>>>> submitted in the proper form."
>>>>
>>>> Reference:  http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultant-submission.html
>>>>
>>>> A form with Javascript to form the XML might be useful sometime, but
>>>> it is possible that the XML schema might change based on feedback we
>>>> receive during this initial phase of submissions.  So it might be
>>>> better to wait.
>>>>
>>>> -Rob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>> Jörg
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alexandro Colorado
>>> PPMC Apache OpenOffice
>>> http://es.openoffice.org
>>
>
>
> --
> Alexandro Colorado
> PPMC Apache OpenOffice
> http://es.openoffice.org

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