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From Alexandro Colorado <...@oooes.org>
Subject Re: OpenOffice SVG vector graphics
Date Sun, 07 Oct 2012 02:18:27 GMT
On 10/6/12, Graham Lauder <yo@apache.org> wrote:
>> On 10/6/12, Graham Lauder <yo@apache.org> wrote:
>> >> Alexandro Colorado wrote:
>> >> > I upload the OpenOffice SVG logo on pure SVG, still needs some
>> >> > cleanup
>> >> > on the nodes, but this is a 100% SVG logo.
>> >> > The attachment is on the cWiki:
>> >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/Apac
>> >> > heO penOfficeTM.svg &
>> >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpageattachments.action?p
>> >> > age Id=27834483&sortBy=date&
>> >>
>> >> The orb is really nice here, a flawless vectorization of what we have.
>> >>
>> >> The text appears a bit distorted, or maybe it's just my on-screen
>> >> rendering: for example, the "O" seems a bit wider and the "e" seems to
>> >> be cut on the right, at least comparing the last image at
>> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=2783448
>> >> 3 with your version.
>> >
>> > You're right, that vector needs a little titivating
>> >
>> >> Font was discussed in this thread
>> >> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.ooo.devel/11468
>> >> and it looks like the discussion settled on Verdana despite some
>> >> comments about it being non-free; anyway it is a very common font, so
>> >> it
>> >> might be possible to get it perfectly rendered to SVG too.
>> >
>> > That's not difficult, all fonts are vectors in any case and fontforge
>> > will export svg.
>> >
>> > I would definitely raise a -1 to using any proprietary fonts,
>> > especially
>> > one
>>
>> Here is a comparison between Bitstream, Nimbus and Liberation.
>>
>> http://imagebin.org/231102
>>
>> Bitstream also was modified by reducing the width by 15%.
>
> That's right I remember doing that way back, the problem with that was/is
> that
> it made the font loo heavy in the wrong places.  The most noticeable was in
>
> the O  In the bitstream family, the arc and the stress in the O are the same
>
> width from top to bottom whereas in for instance Frutiger, the original OOo
>
> font, the widths of the arc (the top and bottom of the bowl) were half the
> width of the stress (the sides).  This had the effect that when the font was
>
> compressed, the arc remained lighter than the stress, or at least until you
>
> got to 50%.
>
> With all of the Bitstream fonts (DejaVu, and Liberation are just variations
> on
> the original Bitstream) compressing the font results in the character
> looking
> top heavy with a fat butt because the arcs are  now wider than the
> stresses.

Here is the Liberation font with some Condensed Bitstream on the Os.
http://imagebin.org/231157

please comment.


>
> Of the three, I'd go with Nimbus.  I like the the Liberation set, but for
> some
> reason they decided that the uppercase O wasn't wide enough???  Liberation
> uses some of the design cues of Frutiger, noticeable on the bowls of the c
> and
> e.  And I never liked the terminal on the bitstream f. it looks unfinished,
>
> like the designer couldn't figure out what to do with it.
>
> Those subtle variations could be fixed in inkscape of course and because
> it's
> an open font we could modify it without issue.
>
> Cheers
> GL
>
>
>
>>
>> > that is owned by our No1 competitor.  There are plenty of good Free
>> > fonts
>> > about:  Bitstream Vera, DejaVu and Liberation are probably the most
>> > mature familys and Luxi and Nimbus are good fonts as well and available
>> > on most Distros.
>> >
>> >
>> > However there is actually no need to use a given font in any case, the
>> > text
>> >
>> > can easily be created in Inkscape so that it is made up of letters that
>> > are
>> >
>> > unique to the OpenOffice Logo.  It is completely unnecessary to use a
>> > prepackaged font.
>> >
>> > This is a very rough freehand demonstration of the concept knocked up
>> > in
>> > five
>> > minutes using Inkscape
>> >
>> > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/File:AOOLogoDemo.svg
>> >
>> > This is not a particular font family and so there are no licensing
>> > issues.
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > GL
>


-- 
Alexandro Colorado
PPMC Apache OpenOffice
http://es.openoffice.org

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