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From Alexandro Colorado <...@oooes.org>
Subject Re: OpenOffice SVG vector graphics
Date Sun, 07 Oct 2012 02:54:31 GMT
On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Alexandro Colorado <jza@oooes.org> wrote:

> On 10/6/12, Graham Lauder <yo@apache.org> wrote:
> >> On 10/6/12, Graham Lauder <yo@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >> Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> >> >> > I upload the OpenOffice SVG logo on pure SVG, still needs some
> >> >> > cleanup
> >> >> > on the nodes, but this is a 100% SVG logo.
> >> >> > The attachment is on the cWiki:
> >> >> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/Apac
> >> >> > heO penOfficeTM.svg &
> >> >> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpageattachments.action?p
> >> >> > age Id=27834483&sortBy=date&
> >> >>
> >> >> The orb is really nice here, a flawless vectorization of what we
> have.
> >> >>
> >> >> The text appears a bit distorted, or maybe it's just my on-screen
> >> >> rendering: for example, the "O" seems a bit wider and the "e" seems
> to
> >> >> be cut on the right, at least comparing the last image at
> >> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=2783448
> >> >> 3 with your version.
> >> >
> >> > You're right, that vector needs a little titivating
> >> >
> >> >> Font was discussed in this thread
> >> >>
> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.ooo.devel/11468
> >> >> and it looks like the discussion settled on Verdana despite some
> >> >> comments about it being non-free; anyway it is a very common font,
so
> >> >> it
> >> >> might be possible to get it perfectly rendered to SVG too.
> >> >
> >> > That's not difficult, all fonts are vectors in any case and fontforge
> >> > will export svg.
> >> >
> >> > I would definitely raise a -1 to using any proprietary fonts,
> >> > especially
> >> > one
> >>
> >> Here is a comparison between Bitstream, Nimbus and Liberation.
> >>
> >> http://imagebin.org/231102
> >>
> >> Bitstream also was modified by reducing the width by 15%.
> >
> > That's right I remember doing that way back, the problem with that was/is
> > that
> > it made the font loo heavy in the wrong places.  The most noticeable was
> in
> >
> > the O  In the bitstream family, the arc and the stress in the O are the
> same
> >
> > width from top to bottom whereas in for instance Frutiger, the original
> OOo
> >
> > font, the widths of the arc (the top and bottom of the bowl) were half
> the
> > width of the stress (the sides).  This had the effect that when the font
> was
> >
> > compressed, the arc remained lighter than the stress, or at least until
> you
> >
> > got to 50%.
> >
> > With all of the Bitstream fonts (DejaVu, and Liberation are just
> variations
> > on
> > the original Bitstream) compressing the font results in the character
> > looking
> > top heavy with a fat butt because the arcs are  now wider than the
> > stresses.
>
> Here is the Liberation font with some Condensed Bitstream on the Os.
> http://imagebin.org/231157
>
> please comment.
>

Here is the proper but with using Nimbus:
http://imagebin.org/231160


>
>
> >
> > Of the three, I'd go with Nimbus.  I like the the Liberation set, but for
> > some
> > reason they decided that the uppercase O wasn't wide enough???
>  Liberation
> > uses some of the design cues of Frutiger, noticeable on the bowls of the
> c
> > and
> > e.  And I never liked the terminal on the bitstream f. it looks
> unfinished,
> >
> > like the designer couldn't figure out what to do with it.
> >
> > Those subtle variations could be fixed in inkscape of course and because
> > it's
> > an open font we could modify it without issue.
> >
> > Cheers
> > GL
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> > that is owned by our No1 competitor.  There are plenty of good Free
> >> > fonts
> >> > about:  Bitstream Vera, DejaVu and Liberation are probably the most
> >> > mature familys and Luxi and Nimbus are good fonts as well and
> available
> >> > on most Distros.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > However there is actually no need to use a given font in any case, the
> >> > text
> >> >
> >> > can easily be created in Inkscape so that it is made up of letters
> that
> >> > are
> >> >
> >> > unique to the OpenOffice Logo.  It is completely unnecessary to use a
> >> > prepackaged font.
> >> >
> >> > This is a very rough freehand demonstration of the concept knocked up
> >> > in
> >> > five
> >> > minutes using Inkscape
> >> >
> >> > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/File:AOOLogoDemo.svg
> >> >
> >> > This is not a particular font family and so there are no licensing
> >> > issues.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Cheers
> >> > GL
> >
>
>
> --
> Alexandro Colorado
> PPMC Apache OpenOffice
> http://es.openoffice.org
>



-- 
Alexandro Colorado
PPMC Apache OpenOffice
http://es.openoffice.org

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