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From Alexandro Colorado <...@oooes.org>
Subject Re: Problems sign in consultants directory
Date Sun, 14 Oct 2012 16:00:31 GMT
On 10/14/12, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Alexandro Colorado <jza@oooes.org> wrote:
>> On 10/14/12, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
>>> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Alexandro Colorado <jza@oooes.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Please write an example on the page, not just throw the XML file doing
>>>> something as simple as
>>>> <consultant>
>>>> <company>Your company</company>
>>>> <address>foo street at disneyland</address>
>>>> <website>http://www.yourcompany.com</website>
>>>> </consultant>
>>>>
>>>
>>> There is an entire file of real examples linked to from that page:
>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/bizdev/consultants/consultants.xml
>>
>> My point exactly. I would rather see this shown as HTML/ASCII, the XML
>> dump is not bad but usually end up in  hard to read spew of data that
>> non-technical users can't understand what happened.
>>
>>>
>>>> Would go a long way, the instructions look a bit too technical for
>>>> regular users. Even if we assume this are technical people, we should
>>>> think this is being applied by the marketing intern used to facebook.
>>>>
>>>> I would even suggest doing an XForm to generate this XML and spew it
>>>> on a texboard with a copy-paste this on your email.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Patches are welcome.
>>
>> Here is an XForm sample:
>> <xforms>
>> <model>
>> <instance>
>>   <person>
>>     <fname/>
>>     <lname/>
>>   </person>
>> </instance>
>> <submission id="form1"
>> action="submit.asp"
>> method="get"/>
>> </model>
>> <input ref="fname"><label>First Name</label></input>
>> <input ref="lname"><label>Last Name</label></input>
>> <submit submission="form1"><label>Submit</label></submit>
>> </xforms>
>>
>
> The form is the easy part.  The hard part is getting it integrated in
> a way that works with our current server environment.  As you've
> probably noticed we don't have mail-in forms anywhere on our website.
> Perhaps there are some security issues here?  Infra would know.  But
> there would be some work to either enable the server-side processing
> of this, or of generating the XML with instructions for the user to
> copy/paste it into an email to ooo-dev.
>
> Personally I don't think the expected volume of submissions justifies
> the time required to put further automation into play.  (My personal
> opinion).  As the instructions say, the submittor can just send
> equivalent information to the list and we can do the XML formatting
> for them.

Ok the original proposal was that it will dump the data in a texbox
(Javascript can do this as opposed to the submit.asp). Just to
pre-format his entry, user  can then paste it on an email.

And if no automation is necessary then I think it should be the first
thing said, like this:

Please submit the information to our ooo-dev mailing list:

- Company name
- Country code [1]
- Address
- URL
-Specialities: [2]

1 - see our ISO compliant country listing
2 - see our list of specialties

The rest of the information like XML, XSD, etc, should be put as
complementary information.


>
> -Rob
>
>>>
>>>> Specially consider the speciality would be all over the place as a
>>>> freeform XML.
>>>>
>>>
>>> In the current form it is restricted to enumerated values.  This list
>>
>> Oh there is a form, I most have missed that.
>>
>>> can expand on request, but I'd like to not have it be freeform so it
>>> can be used as a categorization field.  The <description> field is the
>>> freeform field, where they can put anything relevant.
>>>
>>>> On 10/14/12, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Jörg Schmidt <joesch@j-m-schmidt.de>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I now have sent an invitation to 41 companies relating to an entry
in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> directory:
>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I got the first reply:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----------------
>>>>>>> Listings must be submitted to the ooo-dev mailing list as patches
to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> file consultants.xml
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> nicht Ihr Ernst, oder?
>>>>>> ----------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No problem in this individual case, because I offered my personal
>>>>>> help,
>>>>>> but I think it may seem too complicated for some users even having
to
>>>>>> create an XML file.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What can we do?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For example, i could write a macro for AOO with an input dialog,
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> simplifies the creation of the XML file. But I need a few days time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hints?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is covered in the instructions here:
>>>>>
>>>>> "If you are not familiar with XML, please submit the equivalent
>>>>> information in a post to the ooo-dev list and we can help you format
>>>>> it for submission. But your listing will appear faster if it is
>>>>> submitted in the proper form."
>>>>>
>>>>> Reference:
>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultant-submission.html
>>>>>
>>>>> A form with Javascript to form the XML might be useful sometime, but
>>>>> it is possible that the XML schema might change based on feedback we
>>>>> receive during this initial phase of submissions.  So it might be
>>>>> better to wait.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>> Jörg
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Alexandro Colorado
>>>> PPMC Apache OpenOffice
>>>> http://es.openoffice.org
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Alexandro Colorado
>> PPMC Apache OpenOffice
>> http://es.openoffice.org
>


-- 
Alexandro Colorado
PPMC Apache OpenOffice
http://es.openoffice.org

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