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From jan iversen <jancasacon...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks
Date Fri, 19 Oct 2012 18:18:50 GMT
I had a funny feeling, that I was the drop that made it flow over :-)

I will make a lists of what I missed and post it on l10n and then we can
take that as a starting point.

jan.


On 19 October 2012 20:04, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:27 PM, jan iversen <jancasacondor@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > That is a BIG +++1 from me.
> >
> > Being a new contributors, I could have saved a lot of "stupid" questions,
> > had I had a reading list.
> >
> > I have spent quite a number of hours (and that of others too) finding
> > things, everybody knows.
> >
> > It would be good to have 1 wiki page with a suggested reading and items
> to
> > do (get a wiki account etc.). That page can then later have specialized
> sub
> > pages depending on the type of volunteer.
> >
>
> Right.  This is the idea.
>
> > What really bothers me, is that I waste time for many others, who are
> very
> > polite in helping me get over the first start....with many new volunteers
> > (assuming I am on average) that is a lot of time, that could have been
> > spent on more fruitful things.
> >
>
> Well, I must admit that your recent contributions, enthusiasm and
> questions have prompted these thoughts.  Please don't be bothered that
> you have questions.  This is getting us in the right direction and
> pointing out where we need to improve.  This is good.  We all need to
> keep a good attitude about this.  And I think so far we're doing this
> well.
>
> > I agree however that the wording of the page should be choose well, words
> > like "suggested reading" are far better for those who take things
> > personally.
> >
>
> Good point.
>
> > I will gladly review such a page :-)
> >
>
> Great.  Maybe we can start a thread on L10N list about what the
> "essential skills" a new volunteer would need in that area?
>
> -Rob
>
> > jan.
> >
> > On 19 October 2012 18:17, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I am thinking about what new project volunteers need to get started.
> >> Obviously there are area-specific things.  For example, developers
> >> need to know how to download and build.  Translation volunteers need
> >> to understand Pootle, etc.  But there are also some basic things that
> >> all volunteers should probably do.
> >>
> >> Although we have all of this information (or at least most of it) on
> >> the website or wikis or mailing list archives, it is scattered all
> >> over the place.  I think it would be good if we could collect this
> >> information (or at least links to this information) into one place and
> >> put a linear order behind it, a step of specific steps we want new
> >> volunteers to take.
> >>
> >> Now, I can hear the objections already -- you can't tell volunteers
> >> what to do.  That is why they are volunteers.  You can't regiment
> >> them, etc.  This is true.  But at the scale we need to operate at --
> >> I'm aiming to attract dozens of new volunteers on the project by the
> >> end of the year -- we need some structure.  So what can we do to make
> >> their first 2 weeks in the project easier for them, and easier for us?
> >>
> >> One idea:  Think of the new volunteer startup tasks in terms of
> >> "stages" or "levels", a defined set of reading and other activities
> >> that leads them to acquire basic skills in our community.
> >>
> >> For example:
> >>
> >> Level 1 tasks:
> >>
> >> 1) Read the following web pages on the ASF, roles at Apache and the
> Apache
> >> Way
> >>
> >> 2) Sign up for the following accounts that every volunteer should
> >> have:  ooo-announce, ooo-dev, ooo-users,  MWiki, CWiki, BZ, Forums
> >>
> >> 3) Read this helpful document on hints for managing your inbox with
> >> rules and folders
> >>
> >> 4) Read this code of conduct page on list etiquette
> >>
> >> 5) Send a note to ooo-dev list and introduce yourself
> >>
> >> 6) Edit this wiki page  containing project volunteers. Add your name
> >> and indicate that you have completed Level 1.
> >>
> >>
> >> Level 2 tasks:
> >>
> >> 1) Using the Apache CMS in anonymous mode
> >>
> >> 2) Readings on decision making at Apache
> >>
> >> 3) Readings on project life cycle and roles within the AOO project
> >>
> >> 4) Introduction to the various functional groups within the project:
> >> development, qa, marketing, UX, documentation, support, localization,
> >> etc.
> >>
> >> 5) Pick one or more functional groups that you want to help with.
> >> Edit the volunteer wiki and list them.  Also indicate that you have
> >> now completed Level 2.
> >>
> >> Get the idea?  After Level 2 this then could branch off into
> >> area-specific lists of start up tasks:  how to download and build.
> >> How to submit patches.  How to update a translation.  How to define a
> >> new test case.
> >>
> >> Is any one interested in helping with this?
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
>

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