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From Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Why a mailing list is superior to any web-based "forum"
Date Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:35:14 GMT


On 10/21/2012 01:24 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> markmail carries all apache lists and
> has a great search interface.
>

Yes it does! I use it a lot!

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>> ________________________________
>> From: Alexandro Colorado <jza@oooes.org>
>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 4:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: Why a mailing list is superior to any web-based "forum"
>>
>> On 10/21/12, Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> FWIW this is the only Apache project where
>>> forums are supported, and if a good case
>>> can be made as to why some mailing list
>>> traffic would be better served on the forums,
>>> go for it.  It's just that mailing lists
>>> are where we expect project decisions to
>>> be made because we have standard ways of
>>> providing those archived messages to members,
>>> who would expect similar things from forum
>>> decision-making processes.
>>
>> That said I would have expected a better mailing list interface, the
>> current one lacks even a search bar, let alone some advanced search.
>> OOo used to have also a pretty basic way of searching through the
>> mailing list but eve that, was more helpful.
>>
>> Are these mailing list archieved externally by nabble/gmane or something else?
>>
>> FYI LibO also expend many mosquitoes lifecycle on this topic. They do
>> provide a forumesque interface for mailing list.
>> http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/
>> and
>> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/nabble-mailing-list-interface/
>>
>> Nabble website:
>> http://www.nabble.com/
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org>
>>>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 3:25 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Why a mailing list is superior to any web-based "forum"
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 3:08 PM, RGB ES <rgb.mldc@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 2012/10/21 Fernando Cassia <fcassia@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 6:59 AM, David McKay <dmckay@btconnect.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Technical aspects are bets handled through a mailing list; general
>>>>>>> user
>>>>>>> questions are best handled through a forum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree that a dual approach makes everyone happy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I should have renamed it "why mailing lists should never be
>>>>>> killed".... it was typed after reading one list member say "why a
>>>>>> mailing list?".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a
>>>>>> revolutionary act
>>>>>> - George Orwell
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> One reasons why this "holy war" between MLs and Forums goes on and on
is
>>>>> because both sides try to "make things clear for everyone"(1) explaining
>>>>> why their position is the best one... and both sides are at the same
time
>>>>> right and wrong! Both solutions have pros and cons: there is no perfect
>>>>> system, that's all.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have MLs for development and "decision making" and we have Forums
for
>>>>> user support. Please, let's go on with life: holy wars are tiresome.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> (1) There is a Spanish saying that goes "no aclares que oscureces" but
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> not sure how to translate it into English... something like "do not
>>>>> clarify
>>>>> that you are making it darker" is near, but not exactly the same ;)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In English we sometimes say, "Everyone complains about the weather,
>>>> but no one does anything about it."    There will also be some topics
>>>> that generate debate but without any practical conclusions.
>>>>
>>>> -Rob
>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Ricardo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Alexandro Colorado
>> PPMC Apache OpenOffice
>> http://es.openoffice.org
>>
>>
>>

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"Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never
  dealt with a cat."
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