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From Graham Lauder ...@apache.org>
Subject Re: OpenOffice SVG vector graphics
Date Sat, 06 Oct 2012 21:59:15 GMT
> On 10/6/12, Graham Lauder <yo@apache.org> wrote:
> >> Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> >> > I upload the OpenOffice SVG logo on pure SVG, still needs some cleanup
> >> > on the nodes, but this is a 100% SVG logo.
> >> > The attachment is on the cWiki:
> >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/Apac
> >> > heO penOfficeTM.svg &
> >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpageattachments.action?p
> >> > age Id=27834483&sortBy=date&
> >> 
> >> The orb is really nice here, a flawless vectorization of what we have.
> >> 
> >> The text appears a bit distorted, or maybe it's just my on-screen
> >> rendering: for example, the "O" seems a bit wider and the "e" seems to
> >> be cut on the right, at least comparing the last image at
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=2783448
> >> 3 with your version.
> > 
> > You're right, that vector needs a little titivating
> > 
> >> Font was discussed in this thread
> >> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.ooo.devel/11468
> >> and it looks like the discussion settled on Verdana despite some
> >> comments about it being non-free; anyway it is a very common font, so it
> >> might be possible to get it perfectly rendered to SVG too.
> > 
> > That's not difficult, all fonts are vectors in any case and fontforge
> > will export svg.
> > 
> > I would definitely raise a -1 to using any proprietary fonts, especially
> > one
> 
> Here is a comparison between Bitstream, Nimbus and Liberation.
> 
> http://imagebin.org/231102
> 
> Bitstream also was modified by reducing the width by 15%.

That's right I remember doing that way back, the problem with that was/is that 
it made the font loo heavy in the wrong places.  The most noticeable was in 
the O  In the bitstream family, the arc and the stress in the O are the same 
width from top to bottom whereas in for instance Frutiger, the original OOo 
font, the widths of the arc (the top and bottom of the bowl) were half the 
width of the stress (the sides).  This had the effect that when the font was 
compressed, the arc remained lighter than the stress, or at least until you 
got to 50%.  

With all of the Bitstream fonts (DejaVu, and Liberation are just variations on 
the original Bitstream) compressing the font results in the character looking 
top heavy with a fat butt because the arcs are  now wider than the stresses.

Of the three, I'd go with Nimbus.  I like the the Liberation set, but for some 
reason they decided that the uppercase O wasn't wide enough???  Liberation 
uses some of the design cues of Frutiger, noticeable on the bowls of the c and 
e.  And I never liked the terminal on the bitstream f. it looks unfinished, 
like the designer couldn't figure out what to do with it.

Those subtle variations could be fixed in inkscape of course and because it's 
an open font we could modify it without issue.

Cheers
GL

      

> 
> > that is owned by our No1 competitor.  There are plenty of good Free fonts
> > about:  Bitstream Vera, DejaVu and Liberation are probably the most
> > mature familys and Luxi and Nimbus are good fonts as well and available
> > on most Distros.
> > 
> > 
> > However there is actually no need to use a given font in any case, the
> > text
> > 
> > can easily be created in Inkscape so that it is made up of letters that
> > are
> > 
> > unique to the OpenOffice Logo.  It is completely unnecessary to use a
> > prepackaged font.
> > 
> > This is a very rough freehand demonstration of the concept knocked up in
> > five
> > minutes using Inkscape
> > 
> > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/File:AOOLogoDemo.svg
> > 
> > This is not a particular font family and so there are no licensing
> > issues.
> > 
> > 
> > Cheers
> > GL

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