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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <>
Subject RE: Apache and ODF
Date Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:52:55 GMT

I agree about Kindle.  A Kindle Fire has more functionality and all of the UI capabilities
one expects of an Android device, whereas the Kindle Readers have a different, special-purpose

I see Rob has provided a comprehensive statement later on this thread.  I would add that this
is not a matter that requires particular support in ODF.  Implementations of ODF support clearly
have discretion in this area, since there is no specification of how presentation is handled
for editing.  

 - Dennis


My smart phone has Adobe (Acrobat) Reader on it.
Acrobat Reader maintains layout fidelity but it is easy to zoom into the full-page view and
also move around on it.  I can rotate the phone, of course, in order to have a wider view
or a longer view. 

For Word documents on my smartphone, there is less attention to formatting and print layout
and the material is "re-flowed".  If I rotate the phone, the layout will be reflowed again
to take advantage of the landscape or portrait window.  There is no attempt to replicate page

Also, my phone does not allow editing of Office documents that have features the phone can't
preserve.  (I have the option of opening the document, stored on SkyDrive, via the browser
on the phone, however.)  

For Excel documents, there is more attention to layout preservation.  It is a bit in-between
the PDF and the Word cases.

I agree, tablets and slates will have more room for improved layout.  Since a table may be
able to connect to a printer, also, there would need to be a way to see a print preview, even
if print layout is challenging, depending on the size of the tablet display.  A great deal
will also depend on how much of the work is done on the device and how much is in the cloud,
depending on connectivity and other provisions/options.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Rory O'Farrell [] 
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 02:06
Subject: Re: Apache and ODF

On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 09:58:25 +0100
Ian Lynch <> wrote:

> On 26 October 2012 08:42, Fan Zheng <> wrote:
[ ... ]
> Is it possible to have choices? Keep the original page aspect ratio and
> scroll (Never used a kindle so not sure if it can scroll but obviously
> Android on phones can!) or have a "fit to aspect" where the page is scaled
> to the kindle in AOO befor export. If one of the pre-defined page templates
> in AOO was the kindle page size it would be possible to reformat the pages
> in a document to that size just as you can change from say A4 to US letter.
[ ... ]
> There can be issues with documents that have both portrait and landscape
> pages in them on normal computer screens.
[ ... ]

In this discussion it is important to specify clearly which Kindle is the target device, as
the screen ratio and pixel count varies from device to device with the newer Kindles.  A stranger
coming to this discussion might assume that Kindle genericly refers to the normal "reading"
Kindle, with an 800h x 600w screen, which is the common Kindle in use.

Rory O'Farrell <>

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