Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C353FD462 for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 13:18:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 66336 invoked by uid 500); 25 Sep 2012 13:18:11 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 66074 invoked by uid 500); 25 Sep 2012 13:18:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 66046 invoked by uid 99); 25 Sep 2012 13:18:09 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 13:18:09 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail-vb0-f47.google.com) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username robweir, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 13:18:09 +0000 Received: by vbbez10 with SMTP id ez10so7276783vbb.6 for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 06:18:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.33.130 with SMTP id r2mr7370572vdi.43.1348579088025; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 06:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.204.211 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 06:18:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <504F7B6E.9030301@t-online.de> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 09:18:07 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OpenOffice in the browser? From: Rob Weir To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, Jesper Thomsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Jesper Thomsen wrote: > Hi Regina, > > I am resending the message to this address as requested - I look forward to > your feedback. > Hi Jesper, Taking a look at your Roozz website, it looks like you would want to redistribute the binary packages for Apache OpenOffice, but probably not need to modify the code at the source level. If this is correct, then our open source license should give you the permissions that you need. See here: http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html In particular, no additional permission is needed to copy and redistribute OpenOffice. Note however that we do have dependencies on several other 3rd party libraries. These are included in our install and they come with their own terms. Check the LICENSE and NOTICE files that come with the install for details. Some of these licenses require that you propagate copyright notices, etc., into any derived product. You also asked about the name of the product. Do you have a preference here? Something like "Roozz Office Suite Powered by Apache OpenOffice" is what we normally request for derived products. But we have had cases where someone wants to repackage OpenOffice, with install-level changes, but no functional changes. After clarifying things related to labeling, support, and other factors related to user expectations, we were able to give permission to use the name "Apache OpenOffice". If you want to explore that possibility in more detail, let us know. Regards, -Rob > Regards, > Jesper > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Jesper Thomsen wrote: > >> Hi Regina, >> >> Thanks a lot for your response. Let me try and answer your questions: >> >> Does this mean, that Apache OpenOffice needs to be installed and you use >> it when documents are shown/altered inside the browser? Or is it more like >> WebODF on client side? Are the documents editable inside the browser or is >> it a kind of ODF viewer? >> What this means, is that the user can simply run OpenOffice exactly as >> when the user runs the desktop version. They can edit and have access to >> exactly the same functionalities but they can run it right in any browser >> the prefer on any Windows operating system. >> >> As far as I know, it is not be possible to provide it from our site, >> unless your development becomes a project in Apache. We provide the source >> of Apache OpenOffice and some localized, ready to use binaries. >> Okay - thanks for that response. If possible, we are happy to distribute >> it from our various sites to new and existing user - so far some 1 million >> users have installed the Roozz plugin. >> >> As the ODF format becomes more and more known and Google has it as file >> type, such application might be useful. It is the purpose of the Apache >> license, that you can do all such exciting things with the code. And this >> mailing list is indeed the place, to get help if needed. >> That sounds good. So the Apache license would also allow us to distribute >> such an in-browser version from our own site, if I understand you >> correctly? >> >> Kind regards, >> Jesper >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: >> >>> Hi Jesper, >>> >>> Jesper Thomsen schrieb: >>> >>>> Hi Apache Team, >>>> >>> >>> >>> "Apache Team" is not the right term for us. We are individual persons >>> belonging to the incubating OpenOffice project. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Roozz is a Danish startup and we have a technology that can turn Windows >>>> desktop software into online browser versions running in any Windows OS >>>> and >>>> any browser. >>>> >>>> We think it could be great for your users to have OpenOffice as an >>>> in-browser version. We have so far not looked at converting it in detail, >>>> but we believe there are very good chances we can make it run at native >>>> performance. >>>> >>> >>> Does this mean, that Apache OpenOffice needs to be installed and you use >>> it when documents are shown/altered inside the browser? Or is it more like >>> WebODF on client side? Are the documents editable inside the browser or is >>> it a kind of ODF viewer? >>> >>>> >>>> Before we spend too much time, would you be interested in joining forces >>>> with us and provide such a version from your site? >>>> >>> >>> As far as I know, it is not be possible to provide it from our site, >>> unless your development becomes a project in Apache. We provide the source >>> of Apache OpenOffice and some localized, ready to use binaries. >>> >>> >>> Alternatively, would be >>> >>>> allowed to distribute it from our side using a name such as "Roozz Office >>>> Suite Powered by Apache OpenOffice" (or similar - as per the example on >>>> your site). There are of course no costs of any kind to you. >>>> >>>> I am excited to hear what you think of this - thanks in advance. >>>> >>> >>> As the ODF format becomes more and more known and Google has it as file >>> type, such application might be useful. It is the purpose of the Apache >>> license, that you can do all such exciting things with the code. And this >>> mailing list is indeed the place, to get help if needed. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> Regina >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Yours sincerely, >> Jesper Wendel Thomsen - Vice President of Sales & Marketing, Roozz.com >> >> Phone : +45 3011 0746 >> Website : www.roozz.com >> Mail : jesper@roozz.com >> Twitter Facebook >> >> >> ** Get access to all 150+ titles on Roozz right here >> >> * A few **of the great publishers who have trusted Roozz with their >> software : VSO Software, >> Stoik , FontLab >> * >> > > > > -- > Yours sincerely, > Jesper Wendel Thomsen - Vice President of Sales & Marketing, Roozz.com > > Phone : +45 3011 0746 > Website : www.roozz.com > Mail : jesper@roozz.com > Twitter > Facebook > > > ** Get access to all 150+ titles on Roozz right > here > > * A few **of the great publishers who have trusted Roozz with their > software : VSO Software, > Stoik , > FontLab > *