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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:01:31 +0800
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Subject: Re: Clipart library
From: Shenfeng Liu <liushenf@gmail.com>
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2012/9/10 J=FCrgen Schmidt <jogischmidt@gmail.com>

> On 9/9/12 11:36 PM, Ian Lynch wrote:
> > On 3 September 2012 02:19, Kevin Grignon <kevingrignon.oo@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> KG03 - see comments inline
> >>
> >> On Aug 31, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Ian Lynch <ianrlynch@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 31 August 2012 02:20, Kevin Grignon <kevingrignon.oo@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> KG02 -see comments inline.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Friday, August 31, 2012 <x-apple-data-detectors://45>, Ian Lynch
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 30 August 2012 09:57, Kevin Grignon <kevingrignon.oo@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> KG01 - see comments inline.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Aug 30, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Ian Lynch <ianrlynch@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm organising the Open clipart library into categories. We could
> use
> >>>>>>> this then as a useful resource to complement AOO.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> KG01 - This adds a lot of value. Ideally we could aim to align the
> >>>>> information architecture for the categorization. This would allow
> users to
> >>>>> leverage the existing knowledge when browse in each library.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Any thoughts about
> >>>>>>> the best way to implement making the categorised library availabl=
e
> to
> >>>>>>> the community?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> KG01 - it would be great to explore ways to make the open clip art
> more
> >>>>> accessible/discoverable within AoO clipart view. Some social
> integration
> >>>>> could enable pulling clipart into editors, or pushing an image from
> an
> >>>>> editor to the open library.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> While we could create a plug-in, it would be a better unified ux i=
f
> we
> >>>>> integrate open clip art and local clipart in one UI.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At present I'm just going through all the folders from
> OpenClipart.org
> >>>>> and putting them into arbitrary folders labelled Animals, People,
> >>>>> Transport, Food etc. This is because each contributor simply puts
> >>>>> often unconnected files in a folder so images on OpenClipart.org ar=
e
> >>>>> grouped by author not type (unless I'm missiong something :-) ).
> While
> >>>>> there are some aggregations and an on-line indexing system on the
> >>>>> OpenClipart.org site I haven't found it particularly easy to find
> >>>>> things. It seems easier to me to have a folder called eg Animals
>  with
> >>>>> sub folders for birds, insects, mammals, perhaps with subdivisions =
of
> >>>>> cartoon and realistic in each. There are png and svg versions of ea=
ch
> >>>>> image. Ideally we'll get import of svg to AOO so that these can be
> >>>>> edited or resaved in odg or odg will develop to be fully svg
> compliant
> >>>>> but I guess that is further down the development road. Once we have
> >>>>> the categories established they could be embedded in the AOO galler=
y
> >>>>> system and anyone wanting to could add to the library to complement
> >>>>> missing items. Probably helpful for the OpenClipArt project too.
> There
> >>>>> really are masses of images to sort through but a lot of duplicates=
 -
> >>>>> millions of pencils and pens :-) This is why a visual search of a
> >>>>> folder called pens is probably going to be more successful than
> trying
> >>>>> to search for key words.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> KG02 - yes, it would be great to clean this up
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So at the moment I propose to plough on sorting the images and
> >>>>> hopefully when they are done someone (perhaps you kevin :-) ) Who
> >>>>> knows more about how the UX can work with the imagescan help make i=
t
> >>>>> easy to integrate into the gallery.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> KG02 - This is an interesting consideration.  When we think about
> social,
> >>>> we need to apply the social integration to the context of office
> >>>> productivity.  I feel that social clip art is a great example of
> future
> >>>> capabilities.
> >>>>
> >>>> KG02 - I will include this scenario in the social design exploration=
s.
> >>>
> >>> Once I have finished first iteration of sorting I'll send you the
> >>> details so you can see what we have.
> >>>
> >> KG03 - Ian, great job. Ya, reach out to me when your further along. In
> the interim, I'll capture a clipart social scenario.
> >
> > I have put the sorted clip art in a zip file in my public drop box fold=
er
> >
> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1115462/casource.zip
> >
> > Snag is it is 360 meg! So not sure what is the best approach for
> > dealing with it. Could probably do with further sorting but at least
> > there is a good start so anyone could refine it to their particular
> > needs much more quickly than starting from scratch.
>
> I think we probably don't want bundle it with AOO directly. I can think
> of an extended gallery implementation where it is possible to hook
> online galleries as well.
>

+1 (for Clipart as well as Template). AOO should provide a kind of
capability (with extensions) to easily search or browse the online
resources. It is another perspective of Cloud/Social Integration value.

- Simon


>
> Ok in case of OpenClipart it raises the question how it should be
> organized/presented to our users. But allowing access to the online
> resources will guarantee that we are up-to-date.
>
>
> Juergen
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>
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