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Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 10:11:48 -0700
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Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][WWW] maybe time for a home page facelift?
From: Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com>
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On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> On Sep 26, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On 09/25/2012 03:47 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sep 25, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> >>
> >>> Should we have a webdev list?
> >>
> >> We discussed using the tags [WWW] last year.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> In the past we did had dedicated list for each line of the project.
> >>> I am not sure this is something that should be discussed as the
> >>> work on redesign start growing.
> >>
> >> Generally everything should be here.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Some suggestions on the design of the site: - Show the product,
> >>> currently there is nothing visual that relates the software with
> >>> office productivity.
> >>
> >> Perhaps we should setup an area in ooo-site where we can have a
> >> design contest. Let me think about how to do that technically using
> >> the CMS.
> >>
> >> Kay - you should continue to with whatever efforts you have in mind
> >> with the main page. What I am thinking about is redesigning the
> >> headers and footers.
> >
> > oh -- OK
> >
> > I need to get back into more extensive learning with the CMS too. :/
> >
> >
> > Right now, I have some recent mods in
> >
> > http://www.openoffice.org/test/
> >
> > to deal with the horizontal scrolling and trying to put "constant" items
> we have in the right side area into permanent areas in the left hand column.
> >
> > We can continue to use this area -- test. I would request that since I
> am working on "index.html" which I hope to finish up and put into
> production soon, that new designs be given some different name, along with
> alternative names for the basic style sheets.
> >
> > [ In this regard, PLEASE HELP fix the styling on my links under the
> social area. I can not get this line to "move over" to align with the one
> above AND keep this coloring for the links. Desperately in need of a CSS
> guru! ]
>
> <div class="action-social-extra">
>                         <a href="https://twitter.com/apacheoo/">
> <em>Twitter</em></a>, <a href="
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/114598373874764163668/about
> "><em>Google+</em></a>,
>                         <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO/"><em>Facebook</em></a>
> and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/338330086179568/"><em>Facebook
> group</em></a>.
>                 </div>
>
> Put a <p> </p> inside the <div>
>
> <div class="action-social-extra"><p>
>                         <a href="https://twitter.com/apacheoo/">
> <em>Twitter</em></a>, <a href="
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/114598373874764163668/about
> "><em>Google+</em></a>,
>                         <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO/"><em>Facebook</em></a>
> and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/338330086179568/"><em>Facebook
> group</em></a>.
>                 </p></div>
>

Thanks for the suggestion. When I did that (yesterday), it aligned
correctly but wiped out the colored links. I'll try again. Given that this
page was originally designed with the styling to do all sorts of things
that it is no longer doing, I'm thinking the styling could be simplified at
this point.


>
> >
> >>
> >>> - Responsive design, mobile browsers, tablets and devices can have
> >>> different dimensions on the site, having a RD conformant site
> >>> could help our users browse through the site.
> >
> > yes...another reason to make changes
> >
> >>
> >> Sure. I think the best strategy might be to use a common set of css
> >> tags in device specific css files that can then be varied according
> >> to the dimensions of the browser.
> >
> > That's one of the main reasons I wanted to do this. The two home page
> columns are now laid out via percentages vs pixel widths.
>
> When they are pixel widths then they automatically stack. - good for a
> handheld.
>
> And that is the point!
>

Well...OK...I didn't like the right column dropping under. I will start the
wiki page today. I'm sure others have many good ideas on what would be good
at this point.


> Regards,
> Dave
>
>
> >
> >>
> >>> - Corporate theme, ViewVC, cWiki, Forum(?), Bugzilla have their
> >>> own theme, should there be efforts to adopt the same design like
> >>> the templates/extension/wiki site.
> >>
> >> The way the CMS works the templates used for the websites can be
> >> ported by the sysadmins and teams in the Forum and mWiki. cWiki is
> >> harder. I'm sure that SF can follow as well.
> >>
> >>> - Website QA - Possible broken pages due to the change in
> >>> frameworks (from Oracle to Apache) on smaller projects.
> >>
> >> Download the source, discuss any errors, make the changes - JFDI.
> >>
> >> Regards, Dave
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On 9/25/12, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Kay Schenk
> >>>>> <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> With our graduation coming up soon, it might be time for us
> >>>>>> to consider a slight update to the user portal web site --
> >>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/-- for this momentous occasion.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> To this end, I've moved some entities to the "test"
> >>>>>> directory, and
> >>>>> updated
> >>>>>> robots.txt to not index this directory.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I've wanted to fix some of the styling for a while to deal
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>> horizontal
> >>>>>> placement issues, but I'm sure some of you have some ideas as
> >>>>>> well.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Maybe a wiki page would be a good idea as well to present
> >>>>>> graphic
> >>>>> mockups of
> >>>>>> ideas.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Good topic to bring up.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> With graduation we'll have to think about changes to two
> >>>>> websites. www.openoffice.org, of course.  But also our project
> >>>>> website, which will end up at openoffice.apache.org. The
> >>>>> mailing lists will also update, e.g., ooo-dev@i.a.o -->
> >>>>> dev@openoffice.apache.org.  Our subversion tree changes as
> >>>>> well.  Ditto for Apache dist directory.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So that leads to several sets of website changes:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1) Any rebranding we need/want to do, e.g. remove "incubator"
> >>>>> disclaimer and references.  There was talk at one point about
> >>>>> refreshing the logo design at this time as well.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2) Updating URL's, email list address, SVN and dist directory
> >>>>> references.  There may be others.  This is pretty much a search
> >>>>> & replace operation.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 3) Any work to "freshen" the website UI.  IMHO it is always a
> >>>>> good time to improve the website ;-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I wonder if it would be a good time to rethink the default font
> >>>>> on the website.  Look at our plain text versus Mozilla's
> >>>>> website, which uses OpenSans (Apache 2.0 License):
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/features/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.google.com/webfonts/specimen/Open+Sans
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To me this is much more legible than our current font
> >>>>> (Liberation?)
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I know we'll have quite a number of references to change after we
> >>>> graduate, and I thought we were planning on using the area where
> >>>> we have the Apache incubator icon for something else but I'd need
> >>>> to go look that up.
> >>>>
> >>>> re: fonts --- I'll need to investigate this. I didn't realize we
> >>>> had much of anything specified. hmmmm....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Rob
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> So...get your creative juices flowing and let's see what we
> >>>>>> can do. --
> >>>>>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> > MzK
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "Just 'cause you got the monkey off your back doesn't mean
> >>>>>> the circus has left town." -- George Carlin
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>>
> > MzK
> >>>>
> >>>> "Just 'cause you got the monkey off your back doesn't mean the
> >>>> circus has left town." -- George Carlin
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice
> >>> http://es.openoffice.org
> >>
> >
> > --
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > MzK
> >
> > "Just 'cause you got the monkey off your back
> > doesn't mean the circus has left town."
> >                    -- George Carlin
>
>


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