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On 9/20/2012 11:13 AM, Louis Su�rez-Potts wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 12-09-19, at 22:05 , Yong Lin Ma <mayongl@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Louis,
>> You are on the list. So to Ian. You may understand the process.  There
>> will be far more ten
>> on the final PMC roster.   This is a chance to give others credits,
>> especially those not been mentioned on any lists yet.
>
> As you have no doubt gathered from my subsequent posts, that's not the issue. I mean my being on the list or not. The issue is the display of the list and its management and how it is presented to naive viewers, or even non-naive. I have no particular interest in serving but do believe, as I wrote, that certain areas do need to be served. This is not about ego.
>
> The structure of this discussion has already ensnared a few. I would rather, as I mentioned, use a wiki. I'll get to that when I have time tomorrow.

Andrew's proposal is likely only a first step towards forming a PMC, 
there will be a discussion going on afterwards. Your idea with the wiki 
is certainly an excellent way to visualize the results of the ongoing 
proposal and further elaborate. But I think we shouldn't interrupt the 
current process now that it's running quite decent.

Peter

>
> Thanks
> Louis
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Louis Su�rez-Potts <luispo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I would agree with Peter's list but would ask that Ian Lynch be considered. Here's why: Whom do we have speaking on behalf of education and ecosystem development? As I'm not on this list�and I'm not suggesting I ought to be�I think that someone like Ian, who's work is so involved with OO and has been�would provide good insight into how what is done at Apache OO affects the ecosystem as a whole.
>>>
>>> Louis
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12-09-19, at 03:40 , Peter Junge <peter.junge@gmx.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here's my list of 10:
>>>> Andrew Rist (arist)
>>>> Ariel Constenla-Haile (arielch)
>>>> Donald P. Harbison (dpharbison)
>>>> J�rgen Schmidt (jsc)
>>>> Kazunari Hirano (khirano)
>>>> Pedro Giffuni (pfg)
>>>> Raphael Bircher (rbircher)
>>>> RGB.ES (rgb-es)
>>>> Yang Shih-Ching (imacat)
>>>> Yong Lin Ma (mayongl)
>>>>
>>>> (Would have been easier if I were allowed to name 5 or 6 more)
>>>>
>>>> On 9/18/2012 2:13 AM, Andrew Rist wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Andre Fischer (af)
>>>>> Andrea Pescetti (pescetti)
>>>>> Drew Jensen (atjensen)
>>>>> J�rgen Schmidt (jsc)
>>>>> Kay Schenk (kschenk)
>>>>> Raphael Bircher (rbircher)
>>>>> Pedro Giffuni (pfg)
>>>>> Yang Shih-Ching (imacat)
>>>>> Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (orw)
>>>>> RGB.ES (rgb-es)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>> Yong Lin Ma
>