Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E572D3EA for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 17:30:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 28054 invoked by uid 500); 7 Sep 2012 17:30:07 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 27968 invoked by uid 500); 7 Sep 2012 17:30:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 27897 invoked by uid 99); 7 Sep 2012 17:30:06 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 17:30:06 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [216.119.133.2] (HELO a2s42.a2hosting.com) (216.119.133.2) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 17:29:57 +0000 Received: from 71-217-73-181.tukw.qwest.net ([71.217.73.181]:33652 helo=Astraendo) by a2s42.a2hosting.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TA2L9-0040yW-P6 for ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 13:27:36 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Dennis E. Hamilton" To: References: <50470FFE.6010404@t-online.de> <25863408.22133.1346894222466.JavaMail.mobile-sync@icgu11> <-7049611619347008040@unknownmsgid> <505BC6BC-17ED-4A5F-97EA-4BF9F5996F75@comcast.net> <-512532003528581480@unknownmsgid> <63370B36-3645-4D93-A782-F7DDF722C8FB@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <63370B36-3645-4D93-A782-F7DDF722C8FB@comcast.net> Subject: RE: What is a good Project Management Committee member? Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 10:27:41 -0700 Message-ID: <010401cd8d1e$1633a0f0$429ae2d0$@apache.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQHftV+aEVp+cpae6uKklNB75rWnZwJCv1CdAbIYkqgBZvvAwQHMfA/jAhRwp6UBqP6RKgGoUPMklvZWIFA= Content-Language: en-us X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - a2s42.a2hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - incubator.apache.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apache.org I think the League of Crafty Guitarists is a brilliant metaphor. Thanks = Dave. I think it might be good to notice, as well, how audiences = respond as participants in such a performance. In pondering the question on this thread, I find that puzzling over = roles may be off the mark. I still want to know what would be the = evidence of community by how others perceive and respond to the project = atmosphere. =20 Today, I will expend my thread-penny on this question: "What has anyone invited/moved to contribute here know they are = welcome,=20 know their contribution is honored, and are thrilled with being part = of it?" An easy way for anyone to address this question, especially the current = committers and PPMC members, is to ask it of themselves. Or we can ask = it with someone else's name. For example, "What has orcmid know he is welcome, know his contribution is = honored, and thrilled with being part of it?" A greater challenge is having whatever that is work for anyone else I = choose to name. Rob, Kay, An, Andrea, J=C3=BCrgen, Ma, and those who've = not yet arrived -- and have it work for me. Since I'm on the PPMC, I have to ask myself this question, "What am I doing to create the [project] world in which I want to = live?" Then I get to deal with the gap between my own actions and how I say I = want it to be. That's where the not-good-news insights are available. = It's humbling. From there, the challenge is finding appropriate action = that aligns who I am and how I act that offers up the world I want to = live in. =20 - Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2wave@comcast.net]=20 Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 22:42 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: What is a good Project Management Committee member? [ ... ] >> Perhaps a better musical metaphor to aspire to might be Robert = Fripp's The League of Crafty Guitarists [1] I hadn't thought of them for = awhile, but I saw them live about 25 years ago. A big circle of = guitarists sharing and passing on riffs. Here the emphasis is on observation and passing the lead. The guitar = players are in a circle and are watching each other. Regards, Dave >>=20 >> Regards, >> Dave >>=20 >> [1] http://www.thelcg.net/music.html