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Subject: RE: Moderating ooo-private
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 08:34:28 -0700
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With regard to inappropriate messages to ooo-private, I agree that it is =
a good idea to provide better information and to discourage the use of =
ooo-private for this kind of traffic.  I think one problem is that some =
folks want their request to be personal and all think they are (or want =
to be) reaching a support organization.

I conducted an experiment to see how the list rejects messages.  The =
bounce I received is the message immediately below.  The original =
request to ooo-private was returned in an attachment.  That is attached =
to this message but I don't know that it will be preserved on ooo-dev.  =
What that message is like is posted below the Rejection Message.

 - Dennis


  -----Rejection Message-----
From: ooo-private-owner@incubator.apache.org =
[mailto:ooo-private-owner@incubator.apache.org]=20
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 08:20
To: himself@orcmid.com
Subject: Returned post for ooo-private@incubator.apache.org


Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
ooo-private@incubator.apache.org mailing list.

I'm sorry, your message (enclosed) was not accepted by the moderator.
If the moderator has made any comments, they are shown below.

>>>>> -------------------- >>>>>
This is a test rejection message from the ooo-private list robot.  This =
comment is supplied by the moderator.
The purpose of this test is to determine how useful reject messages or a =
replacement boilerplate could be helpful in directing users with =
problems to an appropriate place where they are likely to receive =
assistance.
<<<<< -------------------- <<<<<


  -----Rejected Message-----
From: himself@orcmid.com [mailto:himself@orcmid.com]=20
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 08:03
To: OOo-private Apache Incubator=20
Subject: PLEASE REJECT THIS MESSAGE

Sorry about that.  I did not realize that orcmid@msn.com was listed as =
subscribed.  Trying again.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orcmid@msn.com]=20
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 07:57
To: OOo-private Apache Incubator=20
Subject: PLEASE REJECT THIS MESSAGE

This is a test request form an unsubscribed user.  It is being submitted =
to see how useful rejection messages are.  Please reject this message.  =
Please use the %%% markers and add a statement to the rejection message.

 - Dennis (orcmid@apache.org)


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Sorry about that.  I did not realize that orcmid@msn.com was listed as =
subscribed.  Trying again.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orcmid@msn.com]=20
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 07:57
To: OOo-private Apache Incubator=20
Subject: PLEASE REJECT THIS MESSAGE

This is a test request form an unsubscribed user.  It is being submitted =
to see how useful rejection messages are.  Please reject this message.  =
Please use the %%% markers and add a statement to the rejection message.

 - Dennis (orcmid@apache.org)


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