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From sebb <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS][PMC] Proposed PMC List
Date Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:49:02 GMT
On 20 September 2012 07:45, Andrea Pescetti <> wrote:
> RGB ES wrote:
>> 2012/9/19 Dennis E. Hamilton
>>> I recommend that the process continue.  My only objection is that having
>>> secret nominations is not compatible with the Apache Way ...
>>> I recommend that no one accept nominations privately and that those who
>>> have already sent theirs via any back-channel use ooo-private
> OK. The important thing is that the process can continue. It might well be
> that nobody prefers to state his preferences in private (meaning: somewhere
> else than ooo-dev): as I wrote, it was not a personal concern, I just
> wondered if allowing it would increase participation in this nomination
> phase (and at the same time I encouraged those, if any, who preferred secret
> nominations/lists to speak up, and nobody did so far, which probably means I
> was simply wrong and everybody is fine with public nominations/lists).
>> +1 (Even if I see no point on hiding the vote).
> I was going to answer that secret ballot is a basic principle, but indeed,
> now that I think about it, it might be that there is no such thing as a
> "secret ballot" in the Apache way, at least for normal operations...
> does not mention this
> possibility.

AFAIK that applies to code and releases only, not people.

Once a PMC exists, new members must be nominated and discussed on the
private@tlp list.
Votes are held on the private list, so is not secret, but it is not
public either.

ASF members are nominated on the members list (and in members-only files).
ASF member voting is secret.

Board members are nominated on the members list.
Voting is secret.

> Good to know. But we can come back to this at a later stage and
> let the current nomination phase continue.
> Regards,
>   Andrea.

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