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From sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Updating Committers on Project Status Page (was RE: New committer: Chen ZuoJun)
Date Mon, 24 Sep 2012 15:51:09 GMT
On 24 September 2012 13:50, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> On Sep 24, 2012, at 4:34 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 5:37 AM, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 24 September 2012 03:50, Rob Weir <rabastus@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sep 23, 2012, at 10:15 PM, "Dennis E. Hamilton" <orcmid@apache.org>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Rob,
>>>>>
>>>>> I recently took a look at <http://incubator.apache.org/projects/openofficeorg.html>
to see if I could derive that list from the Roster.
>>>>>
>>>>> What gave me pause is that the list is apparently maintained in XML.
 I could not find anywhere that MarkDown is used.  Is that correct?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Correct.  It is XML. It used to require that I check out the whole
>>>> directory, update the XML, run an ant script to generate the HTML and
>>>> then check in both the XML and HTML.  This is much simplified by the
>>>> CMS which does the template generation behind the scenes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I could still mechanically derive the XML elements that are used now,
although it is a bit more complicated than search and replace on a CSV of an extract of the
roster.  If I were to do that, I would also indicate who is on the PPMC.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure we need to maintain that "status file" once we graduate.
>>>> I think it is more of a podling tracking thing. So it might be
>>>
>>> Yes, it is for active podlings only. No need to update it once
>>> graduated, though it does need to be completed before graduation.
>>>
>>> The other file that needs to be updated by podlings is podlings.xml.
>>>
>>> Note that
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#ooo
>>>
>>> is created automatically from the SVN authz file (where podling
>>> committers are listed) plus LDAP groups.
>>>
>>>> simplest if we just manually update it for now.  But longer term it
>>>> would be good to be able to generate a page for the project website
>>>> from the Roster.   The ODF Toolkit has an XSLTRunner component that
>>>> could be used for this.
>>>
>>> Not sure that's necessary. You could just link to the appropriate
>>> sections in the above file.
>>>
>>
>> Is there any easy way to track PMC membership?  Maybe that be derived
>> from the authz for the eventual /pmc/openoffice tree?    Eventually we
>> want an easy way to generate a roster that lists committers but also
>> identifies PMC members.
>
> Sebb answered, but sometimes examples are needed. PMCs have authz as well. Here is the
page for the POI PMC:
>
> http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#poi-pmc

Note that this is derived from the LDAP committee group, but AIUI the
canonical location for PMC membership is

https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/committee-info.txt

The LDAP group needs to be kept in sync with the above file; updating
both is the responsibility of the PMC chair (who will have sufficient
karma).

> Regards,
> Dave
>
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>
>>>> -Rob
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - Dennis
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robweir@apache.org]
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 17:41
>>>>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: New committer: Chen ZuoJun
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <orcmid@apache.org>
wrote:
>>>>>> The Apache OpenOffice PPMC announces the addition of committer
>>>>>> Chen ZuoJun, zjchen@ apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The list of all current podling committers is at:
>>>>>> <http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#ooo>.
>>>>>
>>>>> And one other place:  http://incubator.apache.org/projects/openofficeorg.html
>>>>>
>>>>> That page is part of the IPMC's tracking of podling status and feeds
>>>>> into their "Status of the Clutch" report:
>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Some may recall that we had a reporter use the "status of the clutch"
>>>>> report to claim that the project was not growing.  That was when we
>>>>> were not updating the report.  Since that is the official IPMC view of
>>>>> the podlings, it is important that we keep this information
>>>>> up-to-date, until the project graduates.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was updating this status page whenever a new committer was voted in.
>>>>> It would be great if someone else could take this over now.
>>>>>
>>>>> When a new committer is added, the status file needs to be updated in
>>>>> two places.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Added as a News item.  Automation depends on the wording, so don't
>>>>> be clever.  Just follow the examples there.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) Added in the list of committers.
>>>>>
>>>>> This can most easily be edited via the Apache CMS.
>>>>>
>>>>> [ ... ]
>>>>>
>

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