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From Kevin Grignon <kevingrignon...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS][WWW] maybe time for a home page facelift?
Date Fri, 28 Sep 2012 01:25:12 GMT
KG 02 - See comments inline.

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 5:12 AM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 09/25/2012 09:55 PM, Kevin Grignon wrote:
>
>> KG01 - See comments inline
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 25, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
>>>
>>>  Should we have a webdev list?
>>>>
>>>
>>> We discussed using the tags [WWW] last year.
>>>
>>>
>>>> In the past we did had dedicated list for each line of the project. I
>>>> am not sure this is something that should be discussed as the work on
>>>> redesign start growing.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Generally everything should be here.
>>>
>>>  KG01 - agreed
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> Some suggestions on the design of the site:
>>>> - Show the product, currently there is nothing visual that relates the
>>>> software with office productivity.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  KG01 - I think we should focus on content before we worry about styling
>> or
>> visual design. Please create a wiki page on cwiki to capture the proposed
>> enhancements.
>>
>
> OK, wiki page done...please see
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/x/WwPVAQ<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/WwPVAQ>
>
> post comments, add items, etc...
>
> I didn't propose anything just raised some questions, and provided a
> marked up version of the home page with locational areas.
>
> KG02 - Good stuff. Thanks for getting this going.
>
>
>
>
>
>  Perhaps we should setup an area in ooo-site where we can have a design
>> contest. Let me think about how to do that technically using the CMS.
>>
>> Kay - you should continue to with whatever efforts you have in mind with
>> the main page. What I am thinking about is redesigning the headers and
>> footers.
>>
>>  - Responsive design, mobile browsers, tablets and devices can have
>>> different dimensions on the site, having a RD conformant site could
>>> help our users browse through the site.
>>>
>>
>> Sure. I think the best strategy might be to use a common set of css tags
>> in device specific css files that can then be varied according to the
>> dimensions of the browser.
>>
>>  - Corporate theme, ViewVC, cWiki, Forum(?), Bugzilla have their own
>>> theme, should there be efforts to adopt the same design like the
>>> templates/extension/wiki site.
>>>
>>
>> The way the CMS works the templates used for the websites can be ported by
>> the sysadmins and teams in the Forum and mWiki. cWiki is harder. I'm sure
>> that SF can follow as well.
>>
>>  - Website QA - Possible broken pages due to the change in frameworks
>>> (from Oracle to Apache) on smaller projects.
>>>
>>
>> Download the source, discuss any errors, make the changes - JFDI.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 9/25/12, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>
>>> With our graduation coming up soon, it might be time for us to
>>>>>>
>>>>> consider
>>
>>> a
>>>>>> slight update to the user portal web site --
>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/--
>>>>>> for this momentous occasion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To this end, I've moved some entities to the "test" directory, and
>>>>>>
>>>>> updated
>>>>>
>>>>>> robots.txt to not index this directory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've wanted to fix some of the styling for a while to deal with
>>>>>>
>>>>> horizontal
>>>>>
>>>>>> placement issues, but I'm sure some of you have some ideas as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe a wiki page would be a good idea as well to present graphic
>>>>>>
>>>>> mockups of
>>>>>
>>>>>> ideas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
> KG01 - Yes, good idea. Actually, UX is setting up a virtual studio to show
> sketches, mockups and screen caps of ideas.
>
>
>
>>>>> Good topic to bring up.
>>>>>
>>>>> With graduation we'll have to think about changes to two websites.
>>>>> www.openoffice.org, of course.  But also our project website, which
>>>>> will end up at openoffice.apache.org. The mailing lists will also
>>>>> update, e.g., ooo-dev@i.a.o --> dev@openoffice.apache.org.  Our
>>>>> subversion tree changes as well.  Ditto for Apache dist directory.
>>>>>
>>>>> So that leads to several sets of website changes:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Any rebranding we need/want to do, e.g. remove "incubator"
>>>>> disclaimer and references.  There was talk at one point about
>>>>> refreshing the logo design at this time as well.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
> KG01 - Short term re-branding could remove the "incubation" reference. More
> broadly, we should style the site to reflect any updates to our branding.
>
>
>
>>>>> 2) Updating URL's, email list address, SVN and dist directory
>>>>> references.  There may be others.  This is pretty much a search &
>>>>> replace operation.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) Any work to "freshen" the website UI.  IMHO it is always a good
>>>>> time to improve the website ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
> KG01 - Long term UI refresh, should be associated with any enhancement to
> our brand moving foward. 4.0 presents an opportunity to launch such a
> re-branding.
>
> KG01 - Who can lead a re-branding effort? Marketing? PMC? Thoughts?
>
>
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if it would be a good time to rethink the default font on the
>>>> website.  Look at our plain text versus Mozilla's website, which uses
>>>> OpenSans (Apache 2.0 License):
>>>>
>>>> http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/features/
>>>>
>>>> http://www.google.com/webfonts/specimen/Open+Sans
>>>>
>>>>
> KG01 - Agree, nice font. Very legible onscreen.
>
>
>
>  To me this is much more legible than our current font (Liberation?)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I know we'll have quite a number of references to change after we
>>>
>> graduate,
>
>> and I thought we were planning on using the area where we have the Apache
>>> incubator icon for something else but I'd need to go look that up.
>>>
>>> re: fonts --- I'll need to investigate this. I didn't realize we had much
>>> of anything specified. hmmmm....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Regards,
>>>>
>>>> -Rob
>>>>
>>>>  So...get your creative juices flowing and let's see what we can do.
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>> MzK
>>>>>
>>>>> "Just 'cause you got the monkey off your back
>>>>> doesn't mean the circus has left town."
>>>>>                     -- George Carlin
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>> MzK
>>>
>>> "Just 'cause you got the monkey off your back
>>> doesn't mean the circus has left town."
>>>                     -- George Carlin
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Alexandro Colorado
>> PPMC Apache OpenOffice
>> http://es.openoffice.org
>>
>
>
-- 
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MzK

"Just 'cause you got the monkey off your back
 doesn't mean the circus has left town."
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