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From Alexandro Colorado <...@oooes.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS][WWW] maybe time for a home page facelift?
Date Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:31:49 GMT
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 09/25/2012 03:47 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sep 25, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
>>
>>  Should we have a webdev list?
>>>
>>
>> We discussed using the tags [WWW] last year.
>>
>>
>>> In the past we did had dedicated list for each line of the project.
>>> I am not sure this is something that should be discussed as the
>>> work on redesign start growing.
>>>
>>
>> Generally everything should be here.
>>
>>
>>> Some suggestions on the design of the site: - Show the product,
>>> currently there is nothing visual that relates the software with
>>> office productivity.
>>>
>>
>> Perhaps we should setup an area in ooo-site where we can have a
>> design contest. Let me think about how to do that technically using
>> the CMS.
>>
>> Kay - you should continue to with whatever efforts you have in mind
>> with the main page. What I am thinking about is redesigning the
>> headers and footers.
>>
>
> oh -- OK
>
> I need to get back into more extensive learning with the CMS too. :/
>
>
> Right now, I have some recent mods in
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/test/
>
> to deal with the horizontal scrolling and trying to put "constant" items
> we have in the right side area into permanent areas in the left hand column.
>
> We can continue to use this area -- test. I would request that since I am
> working on "index.html" which I hope to finish up and put into production
> soon, that new designs be given some different name, along with alternative
> names for the basic style sheets.
>
> [ In this regard, PLEASE HELP fix the styling on my links under the social
> area. I can not get this line to "move over" to align with the one above
> AND keep this coloring for the links. Desperately in need of a CSS guru! ]


I think the fact that you are no longer using a <p> tag is what makes it
loose the inherit style. You have <p></p><div ...>Twitter, Google+</div>.


>
>
>
>>  - Responsive design, mobile browsers, tablets and devices can have
>>> different dimensions on the site, having a RD conformant site
>>> could help our users browse through the site.
>>>
>>
> yes...another reason to make changes
>
>
>
>> Sure. I think the best strategy might be to use a common set of css
>> tags in device specific css files that can then be varied according
>> to the dimensions of the browser.
>>
>
> That's one of the main reasons I wanted to do this. The two home page
> columns are now laid out via percentages vs pixel widths.
>
>
>
>>  - Corporate theme, ViewVC, cWiki, Forum(?), Bugzilla have their
>>> own theme, should there be efforts to adopt the same design like
>>> the templates/extension/wiki site.
>>>
>>
>> The way the CMS works the templates used for the websites can be
>> ported by the sysadmins and teams in the Forum and mWiki. cWiki is
>> harder. I'm sure that SF can follow as well.
>>
>>  - Website QA - Possible broken pages due to the change in
>>> frameworks (from Oracle to Apache) on smaller projects.
>>>
>>
>> Download the source, discuss any errors, make the changes - JFDI.
>>
>> Regards, Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 9/25/12, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Kay Schenk
>>>>> <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> With our graduation coming up soon, it might be time for us
>>>>>> to consider a slight update to the user portal web site --
>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/-- for this momentous occasion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To this end, I've moved some entities to the "test"
>>>>>> directory, and
>>>>>>
>>>>> updated
>>>>>
>>>>>> robots.txt to not index this directory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've wanted to fix some of the styling for a while to deal
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>
>>>>> horizontal
>>>>>
>>>>>> placement issues, but I'm sure some of you have some ideas as
>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe a wiki page would be a good idea as well to present
>>>>>> graphic
>>>>>>
>>>>> mockups of
>>>>>
>>>>>> ideas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Good topic to bring up.
>>>>>
>>>>> With graduation we'll have to think about changes to two
>>>>> websites. www.openoffice.org, of course.  But also our project
>>>>> website, which will end up at openoffice.apache.org. The
>>>>> mailing lists will also update, e.g., ooo-dev@i.a.o -->
>>>>> dev@openoffice.apache.org.  Our subversion tree changes as
>>>>> well.  Ditto for Apache dist directory.
>>>>>
>>>>> So that leads to several sets of website changes:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Any rebranding we need/want to do, e.g. remove "incubator"
>>>>> disclaimer and references.  There was talk at one point about
>>>>> refreshing the logo design at this time as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) Updating URL's, email list address, SVN and dist directory
>>>>> references.  There may be others.  This is pretty much a search
>>>>> & replace operation.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) Any work to "freshen" the website UI.  IMHO it is always a
>>>>> good time to improve the website ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder if it would be a good time to rethink the default font
>>>>> on the website.  Look at our plain text versus Mozilla's
>>>>> website, which uses OpenSans (Apache 2.0 License):
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/features/
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.google.com/webfonts/specimen/Open+Sans
>>>>>
>>>>> To me this is much more legible than our current font
>>>>> (Liberation?)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I know we'll have quite a number of references to change after we
>>>> graduate, and I thought we were planning on using the area where
>>>> we have the Apache incubator icon for something else but I'd need
>>>> to go look that up.
>>>>
>>>> re: fonts --- I'll need to investigate this. I didn't realize we
>>>> had much of anything specified. hmmmm....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>
>>>>>  So...get your creative juices flowing and let's see what we
>>>>>> can do. --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  MzK
>
>>
>>>>>> "Just 'cause you got the monkey off your back doesn't mean
>>>>>> the circus has left town." -- George Carlin
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  MzK
>
>>
>>>> "Just 'cause you got the monkey off your back doesn't mean the
>>>> circus has left town." -- George Carlin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice
>>> http://es.openoffice.org
>>>
>>
>>
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
>
> "Just 'cause you got the monkey off your back
>  doesn't mean the circus has left town."
>                     -- George Carlin
>



-- 
Alexandro Colorado
PPMC Apache OpenOffice
http://es.openoffice.org

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