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From Alexandro Colorado <...@oooes.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS][WWW] maybe time for a home page facelift?
Date Thu, 27 Sep 2012 20:58:01 GMT
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 09/27/2012 10:31 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 09/25/2012 03:47 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sep 25, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   Should we have a webdev list?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> We discussed using the tags [WWW] last year.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  In the past we did had dedicated list for each line of the project.
>>>>> I am not sure this is something that should be discussed as the
>>>>> work on redesign start growing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Generally everything should be here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Some suggestions on the design of the site: - Show the product,
>>>>> currently there is nothing visual that relates the software with
>>>>> office productivity.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Perhaps we should setup an area in ooo-site where we can have a
>>>> design contest. Let me think about how to do that technically using
>>>> the CMS.
>>>>
>>>> Kay - you should continue to with whatever efforts you have in mind
>>>> with the main page. What I am thinking about is redesigning the
>>>> headers and footers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> oh -- OK
>>>
>>> I need to get back into more extensive learning with the CMS too. :/
>>>
>>>
>>> Right now, I have some recent mods in
>>>
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/test/
>>>
>>> to deal with the horizontal scrolling and trying to put "constant" items
>>> we have in the right side area into permanent areas in the left hand
>>> column.
>>>
>>> We can continue to use this area -- test. I would request that since I am
>>> working on "index.html" which I hope to finish up and put into production
>>> soon, that new designs be given some different name, along with
>>> alternative
>>> names for the basic style sheets.
>>>
>>> [ In this regard, PLEASE HELP fix the styling on my links under the
>>> social
>>> area. I can not get this line to "move over" to align with the one above
>>> AND keep this coloring for the links. Desperately in need of a CSS guru!
>>> ]
>>>
>>
>>
>> I think the fact that you are no longer using a <p> tag is what makes it
>> loose the inherit style. You have <p></p><div ...>Twitter, Google+</div>.
>>
>>
>
> Well...all I can tell you is I used many many many permutations yesterday
> trying to get this do what I wanted it to. :) to no use...
>
> I confess I am quite behind in my CSS and  at this point.
>
> I will try to do some quick catch up in this regard, and maybe some rather
> large edits are needed to do something as simple as i'd like.


I still not totally sure what is the problem maybe I should check the SVN
but have u tried using some pseudo classes-elements. I find this site to be
helpful: http://w3schools.com/css/css_pseudo_classes.asp
at least for reference and remembering stuff.


>
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    - Responsive design, mobile browsers, tablets and devices can have
>>>>
>>>>> different dimensions on the site, having a RD conformant site
>>>>> could help our users browse through the site.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>  yes...another reason to make changes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Sure. I think the best strategy might be to use a common set of css
>>>> tags in device specific css files that can then be varied according
>>>> to the dimensions of the browser.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That's one of the main reasons I wanted to do this. The two home page
>>> columns are now laid out via percentages vs pixel widths.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    - Corporate theme, ViewVC, cWiki, Forum(?), Bugzilla have their
>>>>
>>>>> own theme, should there be efforts to adopt the same design like
>>>>> the templates/extension/wiki site.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> The way the CMS works the templates used for the websites can be
>>>> ported by the sysadmins and teams in the Forum and mWiki. cWiki is
>>>> harder. I'm sure that SF can follow as well.
>>>>
>>>>   - Website QA - Possible broken pages due to the change in
>>>>
>>>>> frameworks (from Oracle to Apache) on smaller projects.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Download the source, discuss any errors, make the changes - JFDI.
>>>>
>>>> Regards, Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On 9/25/12, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Kay Schenk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  With our graduation coming up soon, it might be time for us
>>>>>>>> to consider a slight update to the user portal web site --
>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/-- for this momentous occasion.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To this end, I've moved some entities to the "test"
>>>>>>>> directory, and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  updated
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  robots.txt to not index this directory.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've wanted to fix some of the styling for a while to deal
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  horizontal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  placement issues, but I'm sure some of you have some ideas as
>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe a wiki page would be a good idea as well to present
>>>>>>>> graphic
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  mockups of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  ideas.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Good topic to bring up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With graduation we'll have to think about changes to two
>>>>>>> websites. www.openoffice.org, of course.  But also our project
>>>>>>> website, which will end up at openoffice.apache.org. The
>>>>>>> mailing lists will also update, e.g., ooo-dev@i.a.o -->
>>>>>>> dev@openoffice.apache.org.  Our subversion tree changes as
>>>>>>> well.  Ditto for Apache dist directory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So that leads to several sets of website changes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) Any rebranding we need/want to do, e.g. remove "incubator"
>>>>>>> disclaimer and references.  There was talk at one point about
>>>>>>> refreshing the logo design at this time as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) Updating URL's, email list address, SVN and dist directory
>>>>>>> references.  There may be others.  This is pretty much a search
>>>>>>> & replace operation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3) Any work to "freshen" the website UI.  IMHO it is always a
>>>>>>> good time to improve the website ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wonder if it would be a good time to rethink the default font
>>>>>>> on the website.  Look at our plain text versus Mozilla's
>>>>>>> website, which uses OpenSans (Apache 2.0 License):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/features/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.google.com/webfonts/specimen/Open+Sans
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To me this is much more legible than our current font
>>>>>>> (Liberation?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I know we'll have quite a number of references to change after
we
>>>>>> graduate, and I thought we were planning on using the area where
>>>>>> we have the Apache incubator icon for something else but I'd need
>>>>>> to go look that up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> re: fonts --- I'll need to investigate this. I didn't realize we
>>>>>> had much of anything specified. hmmmm....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   So...get your creative juices flowing and let's see what we
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> can do. --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   MzK
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>  "Just 'cause you got the monkey off your back doesn't mean
>>>>>>>> the circus has left town." -- George Carlin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   MzK
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>  "Just 'cause you got the monkey off your back doesn't mean the
>>>>>> circus has left town." -- George Carlin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice
>>>>> http://es.openoffice.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  --
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> MzK
>>>
>>> "Just 'cause you got the monkey off your back
>>>   doesn't mean the circus has left town."
>>>                      -- George Carlin
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
>
> "Just 'cause you got the monkey off your back
>  doesn't mean the circus has left town."
>                     -- George Carlin
>



-- 
Alexandro Colorado
PPMC Apache OpenOffice
http://es.openoffice.org

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