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From Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS][WWW] maybe time for a home page facelift?
Date Thu, 27 Sep 2012 00:38:20 GMT

On Sep 26, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:

> 
> 
> On 09/25/2012 03:47 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> 
>> On Sep 25, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
>> 
>>> Should we have a webdev list?
>> 
>> We discussed using the tags [WWW] last year.
>> 
>>> 
>>> In the past we did had dedicated list for each line of the project.
>>> I am not sure this is something that should be discussed as the
>>> work on redesign start growing.
>> 
>> Generally everything should be here.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Some suggestions on the design of the site: - Show the product,
>>> currently there is nothing visual that relates the software with
>>> office productivity.
>> 
>> Perhaps we should setup an area in ooo-site where we can have a
>> design contest. Let me think about how to do that technically using
>> the CMS.
>> 
>> Kay - you should continue to with whatever efforts you have in mind
>> with the main page. What I am thinking about is redesigning the
>> headers and footers.
> 
> oh -- OK
> 
> I need to get back into more extensive learning with the CMS too. :/
> 
> 
> Right now, I have some recent mods in
> 
> http://www.openoffice.org/test/
> 
> to deal with the horizontal scrolling and trying to put "constant" items we have in the
right side area into permanent areas in the left hand column.
> 
> We can continue to use this area -- test. I would request that since I am working on
"index.html" which I hope to finish up and put into production soon, that new designs be given
some different name, along with alternative names for the basic style sheets.
> 
> [ In this regard, PLEASE HELP fix the styling on my links under the social area. I can
not get this line to "move over" to align with the one above AND keep this coloring for the
links. Desperately in need of a CSS guru! ]

<div class="action-social-extra">
          		<a href="https://twitter.com/apacheoo/"> <em>Twitter</em></a>,
<a href="https://plus.google.com/u/0/114598373874764163668/about"><em>Google+</em></a>,

     			<a href="https://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO/"><em>Facebook</em></a>
and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/338330086179568/"><em>Facebook group</em></a>.
     		</div>

Put a <p> </p> inside the <div>

<div class="action-social-extra"><p>
          		<a href="https://twitter.com/apacheoo/"> <em>Twitter</em></a>,
<a href="https://plus.google.com/u/0/114598373874764163668/about"><em>Google+</em></a>,

     			<a href="https://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO/"><em>Facebook</em></a>
and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/338330086179568/"><em>Facebook group</em></a>.
     		</p></div>


> 
>> 
>>> - Responsive design, mobile browsers, tablets and devices can have
>>> different dimensions on the site, having a RD conformant site
>>> could help our users browse through the site.
> 
> yes...another reason to make changes
> 
>> 
>> Sure. I think the best strategy might be to use a common set of css
>> tags in device specific css files that can then be varied according
>> to the dimensions of the browser.
> 
> That's one of the main reasons I wanted to do this. The two home page columns are now
laid out via percentages vs pixel widths.

When they are pixel widths then they automatically stack. - good for a handheld.

And that is the point!

Regards,
Dave


> 
>> 
>>> - Corporate theme, ViewVC, cWiki, Forum(?), Bugzilla have their
>>> own theme, should there be efforts to adopt the same design like
>>> the templates/extension/wiki site.
>> 
>> The way the CMS works the templates used for the websites can be
>> ported by the sysadmins and teams in the Forum and mWiki. cWiki is
>> harder. I'm sure that SF can follow as well.
>> 
>>> - Website QA - Possible broken pages due to the change in
>>> frameworks (from Oracle to Apache) on smaller projects.
>> 
>> Download the source, discuss any errors, make the changes - JFDI.
>> 
>> Regards, Dave
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9/25/12, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Kay Schenk
>>>>> <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> With our graduation coming up soon, it might be time for us
>>>>>> to consider a slight update to the user portal web site --
>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/-- for this momentous occasion.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To this end, I've moved some entities to the "test"
>>>>>> directory, and
>>>>> updated
>>>>>> robots.txt to not index this directory.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've wanted to fix some of the styling for a while to deal
>>>>>> with
>>>>> horizontal
>>>>>> placement issues, but I'm sure some of you have some ideas as
>>>>>> well.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Maybe a wiki page would be a good idea as well to present
>>>>>> graphic
>>>>> mockups of
>>>>>> ideas.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good topic to bring up.
>>>>> 
>>>>> With graduation we'll have to think about changes to two
>>>>> websites. www.openoffice.org, of course.  But also our project
>>>>> website, which will end up at openoffice.apache.org. The
>>>>> mailing lists will also update, e.g., ooo-dev@i.a.o -->
>>>>> dev@openoffice.apache.org.  Our subversion tree changes as
>>>>> well.  Ditto for Apache dist directory.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So that leads to several sets of website changes:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1) Any rebranding we need/want to do, e.g. remove "incubator"
>>>>> disclaimer and references.  There was talk at one point about
>>>>> refreshing the logo design at this time as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2) Updating URL's, email list address, SVN and dist directory
>>>>> references.  There may be others.  This is pretty much a search
>>>>> & replace operation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3) Any work to "freshen" the website UI.  IMHO it is always a
>>>>> good time to improve the website ;-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I wonder if it would be a good time to rethink the default font
>>>>> on the website.  Look at our plain text versus Mozilla's
>>>>> website, which uses OpenSans (Apache 2.0 License):
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/features/
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.google.com/webfonts/specimen/Open+Sans
>>>>> 
>>>>> To me this is much more legible than our current font
>>>>> (Liberation?)
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I know we'll have quite a number of references to change after we
>>>> graduate, and I thought we were planning on using the area where
>>>> we have the Apache incubator icon for something else but I'd need
>>>> to go look that up.
>>>> 
>>>> re: fonts --- I'll need to investigate this. I didn't realize we
>>>> had much of anything specified. hmmmm....
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Rob
>>>>> 
>>>>>> So...get your creative juices flowing and let's see what we
>>>>>> can do. --
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
> MzK
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "Just 'cause you got the monkey off your back doesn't mean
>>>>>> the circus has left town." -- George Carlin
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> 
> MzK
>>>> 
>>>> "Just 'cause you got the monkey off your back doesn't mean the
>>>> circus has left town." -- George Carlin
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice
>>> http://es.openoffice.org
>> 
> 
> -- 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
> 
> "Just 'cause you got the monkey off your back
> doesn't mean the circus has left town."
>                    -- George Carlin


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