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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <>
Subject RE: [DISCUSS][PMC] Proposed PMC List
Date Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:53:56 GMT

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a list process for individuals nominating 10 persons
for the PPMC.  Furthermore, let's have just one procedure in place at a time.  When this one
is concluded, there will be occasion to reflect and determine the next steps.

The tabulation will be very interesting, since we'll know the frequency with which various
individuals are nominated by others.  That's an useful straw poll.  What is made of it is
something that will happen in full view and without haste.

Furthermore, there is no need to discuss or justify the nominations being made.  (There is
not much value in nominating individuals who have declined to be on the PMC, but there's no
harm either.)

I recommend that the process continue.  My only objection is that having secret nominations
is not compatible with the Apache Way and the oversight responsibilities of the ASF.  There
are private ballots, but not secret ones as far as I know.  

I recommend that no one accept nominations privately and that those who have already sent
theirs via any back-channel use ooo-private if they do not want their selection of names made
public.  (Since there are no -1 votes, and everybody is constrained to 10, I have trouble
seeing the problem.)  There is no reason to identify those who have nominated anyone on the
consolidated report.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Kay Schenk [] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:26
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][PMC] Proposed PMC List

On 09/19/2012 10:38 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
[ ... ]
> In this way, a wiki can provide more than a mail list post.
> Louis

Yes, a wiki can provide more than a mail post, but I think this exercise 
is valid, and provides a convenient way for *anyone* on this list to 
express an "opinion" without explicitly stating why. I actually think 
this is a point in the mailing lists favor. This approach is simple and 
based on impressions of individuals involved with this project. I don't 
see much wrong with that. Picking "10" has been difficult for all of us, 
but I did understand that "10" was not a magic number for the final PMC.

I agree with Juergen that we should complete this circle. I've found it 
pretty interesting so far.


"We never sit anything out. We are cups, constantly and quietly
  being filled.  The trick is, knowing how to tip ourselves over and
  let the beautiful stuff out."
                          -- Ray Bradbury, "Zen in the Art of Writing"

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