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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <>
Subject [OFF-LIST] RE: What is a good Project Management Committee?
Date Sun, 16 Sep 2012 21:20:32 GMT
Thanks for that.  And good point.

 - Dennis

FYI, there is no knowledge on the PPMC how a list of (some) OpenOffice users was obtained
or how many OpenOffice users were e-mailed.

On the other hand, there were two initial committers associated with an organization and site
that was making misleading claims and using the trademark in a confusing manner.

Those two initial committers were encouraged to subscribe to ooo-private and to be on the
PPMC to resolve that.  They did appear, though communication was not clear-cut.  There was
also a reaction from the trademark@ a.o group directly to the organization.

I don't know that there has been a successful resolution.

Now that Apache OpenOffice is producing releases, it is probably irrelevant other than with
respect to trademark issues.  The organization seems to have made no progress although the
site continues to request donations.  

The two individuals are still on the PPMC.  That has not interfered with PPMC activities in
any way.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrea Pescetti [] 
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 13:55
Subject: Re: What is a good Project Management Committee?

Rob Weir wrote:
> For example, we had some initial committers who sent out bulk emails
> to a list of OpenOffice users. ... They issued
> press releases claiming that OpenOffice would fail, that the only way
> to get it to succeed was to send them money.  They did this using a
> name and website and claims that were abusive to the OpenOffice
> trademarks that were transferred to Apache.

While this is not what I had in mind when I raised the 
"trust"/"commitment" concern, it is a valid point.

These cases can probably be discussed on an individual basis and only 
after the individuals have confirmed they want to serve in the PMC, to 
avoid useless discussions.


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