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You can do this with OpenOffice. (MysteryGuitarMan video with OpenOffice Mac) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Dave Fisher In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:29:23 -0700 Cc: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, Paolo Mantovani Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <5024B5D8.10308@apache.org> To: ooo-users@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Aug 10, 2012, at 7:05 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 3:18 AM, Andrea Pescetti = wrote: >> (answering below so that Paolo gets all context; he is not subscribed = so CC >> him if relevant) >>=20 >>=20 >> On 10/08/2012 Rob Weir wrote: >>>=20 >>> If you don't know this guy's work you should really check it out. = He >>> has over 2 million YouTube subscribers. It is hard to describe, but >>> I'd say it is 1/3 one-man band, 1/3 stop motion animation, 1/3 green >>> screen work. And 100% fun. >>>=20 >>> https://www.youtube.com/user/MysteryGuitarMan >>>=20 >>> His latest video is called "Stop-Motion Excel". But if you look >>> closely you see that he is actually using OpenOffice for the Mac: >>>=20 >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DFq9EV2fYF2E >>>=20 >>> And here is the "behind the scenes" video that explains how he did = it: >>>=20 >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D6PCTinsZ7dM >>>=20 >>> This is a fun video and good for showing friends and family what you >>> are working on. Let's try to get the world out, via the social >>> networking site, both project's and personal. And if you want to = add >>> a comment to the YouTube post pointing out that this is OpenOffice = and >>> it can be downloaded for free from www.openoffice.org, then great! >>> This is a good way to introduce the product to more users. >>>=20 >>> Bonus points for adapting an old ASCII Art algorithm to generate a >>> spreadsheet from a photo. If anyone can do that I'll interview them >>> for a blog post and show of their work. >>>=20 >>> Regards, >>>=20 >>> -Rob >>=20 >>=20 >> Paolo Mantovani, an expert of OpenOffice macros and an OpenOffice.org >> Conference speaker, published his "Macro and Rock&Roll" series back = in 2008. >> See for example >> http://ooomacros.blogspot.it/2008/12/macro-e-rock-3_14.html >> and the embedded AC/DC video there. It looks like he might be the man = you >> are looking for. >>=20 >=20 > That's totally insane! Great work. >=20 > It makes me think that there could be some value in thinking "outside > of the box" and rethinking multimedia in the context of a spreadsheet. >=20 > For example, today the only data type a cell can contain is a number > and a string. Boolean and date as well, but they are just special > kinds of numbers. >=20 > What if we had an intrinsic data type for an image? Or a sound clip? > And functions that could operate on these data types. >=20 > For example, if an image is added to a cell (via edit menu, or paste > or drag & drop) then it can operate like a normal data type for many > operations. >=20 > So if there is an image in cell A1 and another in B1, then the formula > =3D(A1+B1)/2 would yield an image that average the two. Diffing = images, > scaling them, etc., have natural interpretations. >=20 > You could even have new spreadsheet functions that operate directly on > image data, e.g., sharpen, blur, FFT, deconvolution, etc. >=20 > You could imagine the same with a data type for audio. Why limit this to images and audio? Have spreadsheets store object = references. The objects can be xml constructs. Objects implement some = set of operators and common functions while the stubs for others = automatically return an error. You could return custom objects from special functions and it would be = cool if those were drawing objects attached to the cell or range. =3DMyHighQualityLogChart(A1,B1,C1:1000,D1:1000) If the object type is not available on the machine then the cell is = automatically protected. This becomes a great way to send results to = clients. >=20 > So this gets more similar to a Mathematica type experience, where you > can have calculations that mix standard numerical operations, but also > interact with multimedia, both as a source and a destination for data. > For example, you can take a range of data, calculated based on other > formula, and "render" it as a sound or an image. >=20 > It is an opportunity. Spreadsheets have not really enhance their > basic computational model since Visicalc. Very intriguing. People love to use spreadsheets to define business = processes and trade analytic models. Regards, Dave >=20 > -Rob >=20 >=20 >> Regards, >> Andrea. >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: ooo-users-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: ooo-users-help@incubator.apache.org >=20