Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 909AED91F for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:59:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 34525 invoked by uid 500); 14 Aug 2012 22:59:54 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 34448 invoked by uid 500); 14 Aug 2012 22:59:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 34439 invoked by uid 99); 14 Aug 2012 22:59:54 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:59:54 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail-wg0-f43.google.com) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username robweir, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:59:54 +0000 Received: by wgbdr1 with SMTP id dr1so760845wgb.0 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:59:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.107.103 with SMTP id hb7mr31755405wib.3.1344985192293; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:59:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.141.168 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:59:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <016b01cd7a68$d37833b0$7a689b10$@rosenlaw.com> References: <016b01cd7a68$d37833b0$7a689b10$@rosenlaw.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:59:52 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FW: Office to Become Fully Open XML Compliant (at last) From: Rob Weir To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Lawrence Rosen wrote= : > FYI. /Larry > It is great to read about the improved ODF support, including ODF 1.2, with OpenFormula and digital signature support. Those are two of the major additions we made in ODF 1.2. The other was adding RDFa/RDF XML support, which neither OpenOffice nor MS Office support. ( But there is some support in Calligra Suite). OOXML Strict was a concession to ISO National Bodies, a last ditch effort invented in a conference room in Geneva to pacify delegates at the Ballot Resolution Meeting. I was there. I saw it. There may be specialized applications where OOXML Strict support is useful, such as a format that a document generation application can target. But for AOO, and for any other editor that cannot control the formats of input documents, we need to be prepared to handle whatever users toss to us, and that includes OOXML from Office 2007 and 2010, as well as 2013. -Rob > > > Lawrence Rosen > > Rosenlaw & Einschlag, a technology law firm ( w= ww.rosenlaw.com) > > 3001 King Ranch Rd., Ukiah, CA 95482 > > Office: 707-485-1242 > > > > From: Andy Updegrove [mailto:Andrew.Updegrove@gesmer.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 8:53 AM > To: andrew.updegrove@gesmer.com > Subject: Office to Become Fully Open XML Compliant (at last) > > > > > Between 2005 and 2008, an unparalleled standards war was waged between > Microsoft, on the one hand, and IBM, Google, Oracle and additional > companies on the other hand. At the heart of the battle were two document > formats, one called ODF, developed by OASIS, a standards development > consortium, and Open XML, a specification developed by Microsoft. Both > were submitted to, and adopted by, global standards groups ISO/IEC. > > But after the dust settled, Microsoft did not fully implement the standar= d > that it had fought so vigorously to have become a global standard. > Instead, it implemented what it called "Transitional Open XML," which was > better adapted for use in connection with documents created using older > versions of Office. > > According to a blog posted yesterday by Jim Thatcher at the Office Next W= eb > site, Office 13 will - finally - permit users to open, edit and save > documents in the format that ISO/IEC approved. Thatcher says that Office > 13 will also provide similar capabilities for the latest version of ODF, > approved by OASIS in January of this year (ODF 1.2), as well as for PDF. > > Much has changed since the great format wars of the last decade, and > perhaps this is why, one day after the announcement, the announcement has > been mentioned in only two brief articles in the trade press. That=E2=80= =99s a > shame, because document interoperability and vendor neutrality matter mor= e > now than ever before as paper archives disappear and literally all of hum= an > knowledge is entrusted to electronic storage. > > Only if documents can be easily exchanged and reliably accessed down ton = an > ongoing basis will desktop competition in the present be preserved, and t= he > availability of knowledge down through the ages be assured. Without > robust, universally adopted document formats, both of those goals are > impossible to attain. > > Read the entire story here: http://tinyurl.com/czwwke9 > > As always, please let me know if you would like to be removed from this > list. > > Andy > > Andrew Updegrove > Gesmer Updegrove LLP > 40 Broad Street > Boston, Massachusetts 02109 > T: 617/350-6800 > F: 617/350-6878 > www.gesmer.com > www.consortiuminfo.org > > Have you discovered The > Alexandria Project? http://amzn.to/xo00rn > > _____ > > Any tax information or written tax advice contained herein (including any= attachments) is not intended to be and cannot be used by any taxpayer for = the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. = (The foregoing legend has been affixed pursuant to U.S. Treasury Regulation= s governing tax practice.) > > Electronic mail from Gesmer Updegrove LLP, 40 Broad Street, Boston, MA 02= 109. Voice: (617) 350-6800, Fax: (617) 350-6878. 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